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Old 10-23-2019, 11:07 PM
 
Location: AZ
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That's exactly how it works, as your fellow impeachers have admitted profligately.
Lie to yourself all you want.
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:13 PM
 
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Like building a wall in Colorado?
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:17 PM
 
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Like building a wall in Colorado?
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:18 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Gee, why don't you ask the police why they isolate suspects when they're interrogating them BEFORE they testify in court?

Impeachment is not a criminal charge, nor is it a civil court dispute. But like those court matters, impeachment requires investigation, evidence findings (or the lack of evidence), confidentiality, proof, and other things that are similar to court proceedings.

Like the courts, most of this stuff comes at the first stages of the proceedings, and since impeachment is a serious matter, investigations have to be conducted in confidentiality until something is proven to be valid or false.
Open proceedings can damage the validity or cloak the falsehoods. And if the information is sensitive, as it often is, could cause an innocent witness deep harm.

Those are the very same reasons why Grand Juries, which are called to determine if a crime has been committed, are always kept confidential and closed.

It is the House's constitutional responsibility to oversee the workings of our government and investigate any charges of wrongdoing within it. The House has always done this, so it has developed an effective and effecient set of rules these committees follow. Those rules were always approved by vote from the full House when they were written or changed.
The committees themselves are bi-partisan, so both parties always have representatives within them all.

Any investigation that's connected to impeachment will always distress one party and delight the other. So the rules are written to be fair for both parties and all individuals.

Trying to breach those rules won't stop the process. Once obligated a committee either has to find something or declare that there is nothing to be found. Confidentiality is equally beneficial and necessary for both. That's why it is mandated.

So forcing open the doors to a closed investigation is nothing but a waste of valuable time and energy. A needless and rude interruption of a vital political process, and a breach of the oath of office they have all sworn to uphold.

If nothing is found, everything stops right there. If something is found that is a valid reason for impeachment, then those proceedings will be fully open and will have the full participation, by mandate, of every member of Congress in both Houses.

And that's the time when Trump would need the support. It will also be the time when the Congress will have to act like responsible men and women in command of their faculties and ability to reason, not like a band of panicked sheep.
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:18 PM
 
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Isn't this process always done behind closed doors? By elected officials or a Grand Jury? This is the process. It was the process for Bill Clinton, it was the process for Benghazi, and it's the process now. There's nothing non-democratic about using elected officials to hold an inquiry. OP, you may want to look up what a democracy is.
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:19 PM
 
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I am glad some Republicans exposing these plotters, of course coward Lindsay Graham is upset.
The impeachment hasn't happened yet. They are investigating.

WAs the four year investigation by Starr done in the public venue.
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:22 PM
 
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Assuming that the Dems don’t cherry pick what they release and take things out of context. Knowing the way they operate, there’s no way the “inquiry” is honest and on the up and up.
Stated twice before but third time for good measure....there are Republicans on each of the three committees looking into impeachment.

Just stop making stuff up.
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:23 PM
 
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What are you Demonicrats so afraid of that you try to do your lynchings without opposition?

I think they should have come in armed and lock the Demonic traitors up and put on trial for treason.
Knowledge is power.

There are Republicans on three committees that are looking into impeachment.

Why are Trump fans so easily fooled by a silly show put on for them and the President?
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:26 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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They also had non-public portions at the beginning.
Republicans conducted some of the Benghazi interviews in a SCIF but I guess folks have forgotten that, or maybe it's somehow different?
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Old 10-23-2019, 11:30 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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There is no way in hell the Senate would convict Trump.

Dems are dragging a BS impeachment into an election year now, they just keep imploding worse and worse. This won't help them next year.
^Yeah, exactly--I agree. The Senate would never impeach him.

Also, the way this Schiff clown is leading the impeachment inquiry, it will all go down in flames soon enough on its own anyway--just in time for another Democrat led hoax come Q1 of 2020.
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