DACA at Supreme Court (President, Americans, conservative, employer)
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Of course children born in the US to a foreign citizen parent were supposed to be US citizens if they were born on US soil (diplomatic families and "Wild Indians" excepted).
No. There is direct historical and legal evidence contradicting your ridiculous claim. I've posted it, including links.
That's what we all should do now that the matter is in the hands of SCOTUS. They aren't listening to our arguments here on C-D and DACA will either be alive and well or dead by next summer.
They are not trying to determine if DACA is constitutional, they are looking into how Trump can end it, which is really a technicality Trump has not figured out yet. So far he has botched his attempts to do it, but obviously an EO can be killed without an act of Congress, so in the end even Trump can manage to kill it.
However, the obvious issues still remain, like the 200 000 kids who are US citizens, and the fact that the 800 000 DACAs are currently employed, and removing them could have an impact to some employers.
Total BS. If that were true they would have never been able to speak to their parents.
Funny how their parents spoke no English when they came here and they managed alright, didn't they? You're right. What language were they taught pre-school at home? The language of their parents of course. They were taught the culture of their homelands also.
They are not trying to determine if DACA is constitutional, they are looking into how Trump can end it, which is really a technicality Trump has not figured out yet. So far he has botched his attempts to do it, but obviously an EO can be killed without an act of Congress, so in the end even Trump can manage to kill it.
However, the obvious issues still remain, like the 200 000 kids who are US citizens, and the fact that the 800 000 DACAs are currently employed, and removing them could have an impact to some employers.
Who cares about these greedy employers? Obama gave them incentives to hire these DACAs over Americans and that was shameful! They can take their minor U.S. kids with them back to their homelands. That's what a loving parent would do.
No. There is direct historical and legal evidence contradicting your ridiculous claim. I've posted it, including links.
Well, you posted one cherry-picked quote from a Senator who later went on to confirm that "jurisdiction" meant "subject to our laws" and capable of being sued in a US court.
Who does NOT care about US employers? Yes, YOU don't seem to care about anything other than your loyalty to King Donald, but pretty much everyone else realizes there are certain challenges to be worked out, like the fact that there are 200 000 US Citizens in play (and YES, we get it that you don't care).
According to this sketchy interpretation, you would not be subject to arrest & prosecution in the United States because you would not be "subject to the jurisdiction” of the country.
Or something else equally nonsensical.
Wrong, everyone in our country is subject to obeying our laws while here but not everyone is subject to our full jurisdiction aka illegal aliens.
Who does NOT care about US employers? Yes, YOU don't seem to care about anything other than your loyalty to King Donald, but pretty much everyone else realizes there are certain challenges to be worked out, like the fact that there are 200 000 US Citizens in play (and YES, we get it that you don't care).
Don't put words in my mouth and make false assumptions about me. I have no loyalty to Trump I just agree with most of his policies. The only one I'm loyal to is my wife!
You're right, I don't care about anchor babies as they aren't real citizens of our country based on the citizenship clause. I care even less about their parents who are knowingly here illegally and expect to get a pass on our immigration laws simply because they gave birth on our soil. Why are you loyal to the anti-American traitors that are pushing another amnesty which isn't in the best interests of our country and it's citizens?
I also don't care about the employers who hire illegal aliens and accepted a bribe from Obama to hire these DACAs over Americans. How is that a bad thing?
Wrong, everyone in our country is subject to obeying our laws while here but not everyone is subject to our full jurisdiction aka illegal aliens.
In what way are illegal aliens not subject to US jurisdiction? Can you sue them in civil court? Yes. Can they be criminally prosecuted? Yes. Can they be fined, arrested, and jailed? Yes. Can they be subject to the administrative deportation process? Also yes. They are subject to our laws and jurisdiction.
Eliminate the 16th Amendment, and DACA would not matter, nor open borders.
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