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View Poll Results: Should President Trump pardon Roger Stone?
Yes 32 29.09%
No 78 70.91%
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Old 11-17-2019, 12:39 PM
 
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a majority of swing voters don't support impeachment.....

link?

 
Old 11-17-2019, 12:44 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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The Roger Stone thing came out of the independent counsel created on your party's lie about Russia collision.

That's why Barr didn't want to mess with it, your party would call it corrupt if he ended it.

What Trump is probably going to do is wait until after some of these Democrats are indicted to pardon Stone. These Democrat conspirators are gonna turn on each other too and Clapper has already tagged Obama as the ringleader.

The only reason Stone was being questioned was based on the false premise of Russia collusion. Anybody found guilty of a process crime that resulted from this partisan hoax should be pardoned in my view.

Your party for 3 years has accused Trump and associates of Russia collusion. Not one person has been convicted of Russia collusion . It was a lie.

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Old 11-17-2019, 12:56 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Originally Posted by ClemVegas View Post
The Roger Stone thing came out of the independent counsel created on your party's lie about Russia collision.

That's why Barr didn't want to mess with it, your party would call it corrupt if he ended it.

What Trump is probably going to do is wait until after some of these Democrats are indicted to pardon Stone. These Democrat conspirators are gonna turn on each other too and Clapper has already tagged Obama as the ringleader.

The only reason Stone was being questioned was based on the false premise of Russia collusion. Anybody found guilty of a process crime that resulted from this partisan hoax should be pardoned in my view.

Your party for 3 years has accused Trump and associates of Russia collusion. Not one person has been convicted of Russia collusion . It was a lie.
Poor ol' tRump.

"No politician has ever been treated worse."

 
Old 11-17-2019, 12:57 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Why hasn't he been indicted for Russia collusion.

they managed to get something on a nobody like Roger Stone but not Trump despite a large team of anti-Trump Democrats with a ton of money to burn.

they even seized audio of Trump phone calls from one of his lawyers and still couldn't find a smoking gun.

if there was all this evidence that liberals promised us for 3 years, why couldn't they find it? Why did they make the accusation if they never had any evidence?
 
Old 11-17-2019, 01:01 PM
 
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Not sure how a far left person like monell can speak for swing voters.

a majority of swing voters don't support impeachment.....far left monell supports impeachment.

If you think Trump stole the election from Hillary, you don't have the pulse of the a majority of Americans. that's a sour grapes conspiracy theory

Liberals don't handle losing and failure well, which explains their Russia collusion delusion and Kap blaming racism rather than himself for the NFL nto working out.
I don't support impeachment -- you can review years of my posts and see that I have never called for impeachment, never thought Trump colluded.

So you are wrong from the get go.

I don't think Trump stole the election from Hillary and you can't find a post that says I do.

While I do have some liberal views - I don't call myself a liberal. I don't like Trump and his methodology and think it is pathetic the way Republicans abandoned osme of their core values to defend him...but that's about Trump not some wild liberal stance on any one issue.

So your perception is so out of line -- it points to your lack of perception.

Yes swing voters, Dems, most Americans did not support impeachment proceedings...but that changed . I know polls aren't exact numbers but the polls changed significanly enough -- the trends changed enough to encourage the Dems in office to pursue the imeachment inquiry hearings. Not sure I support that -- I am learning more information, as we all are...but I don' think Trump will be or can be impeached.

So you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. wrong....lolol
 
Old 11-17-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I don't support impeachment -- you can review years of my posts and see that I have never called for impeachment, never thought Trump colluded.

So you are wrong from the get go.

I don't think Trump stole the election from Hillary and you can't find a post that says I do.

While I do have some liberal views - I don't call myself a liberal. I don't like Trump and his methodology and think it is pathetic the way Republicans abandoned osme of their core values to defend him...but that's about Trump not some wild liberal stance on any one issue.

So your perception is so out of line -- it points to your lack of perception.

Yes swing voters, Dems, most Americans did not support impeachment proceedings...but that changed . I know polls aren't exact numbers but the polls changed significanly enough -- the trends changed enough to encourage the Dems in office to pursue the imeachment inquiry hearings. Not sure I support that -- I am learning more information, as we all are...but I don' think Trump will be or can be impeached.

So you are wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. wrong....lolol
You are one of the biggest racebaiting liberals on this forum.

You've also claim to be a fiscal conservative but you voted for Obama. You will say anything. You are a fiscal liberal if you voted for Obama or any Democrat.

Trump has easily been one of the most conservative politicians in a long time so your claim we abandoned core conservative principles is stupid. The people who typically make this claim are people who support open borders or perpetual foreign wars where there seems to be no American interest.

A far left person like you wouldn't hate Trump if he was betraying conservatives. lol You are an insincere person.

Hard to believe somebody who thinks Roger Stone should go to jail for a long time also opposes impeachment.

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Old 11-17-2019, 01:02 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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Forgive a fellow con artist? Seems plausible.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 01:11 PM
 
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You are one of the biggest racebaiting liberals on this forum.

You've also claim to be a fiscal conservative but you voted for Obama. You will say anything.

Trump has easily been one of the most conservative politicians in a long time so your claim we abandoned core conservative principles is stupid.
'race baiting' -- really -- seems you have something in common with the President -- hurling insults when you make up lies and stories.

There hasn't been a true fiscal conservative in office since I moved to the USA in 1997. So it doesn't matter which side of the aisle you vote for -- neither one is fiscally conservative.

Your hurling accusations, assumptions, theories about me and my values as some way of proving me wrong...but you have yet to cite the article showing the RECENT trend of swing voters to be against impeachment.
 
Old 11-17-2019, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Why hasn't he been indicted for Russia collusion.
Fully explained here.
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they managed to get something on a nobody like Roger Stone but not Trump despite a large team of anti-Trump Democrats with a ton of money to burn.

they even seized audio of Trump phone calls from one of his lawyers and still couldn't find a smoking gun.

if there was all this evidence that liberals promised us for 3 years, why couldn't they find it? Why did they make the accusation if they never had any evidence?
Evidence? What evidence?

 
Old 11-17-2019, 01:13 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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'race baiting' -- really -- seems you have something in common with the President -- hurling insults when you make up lies and stories.

There hasn't been a true fiscal conservative in office since I moved to the USA in 1997. So it doesn't matter which side of the aisle you vote for -- neither one is fiscally conservative.

Your hurling accusations, assumptions, theories about me and my values as some way of proving me wrong...but you have yet to cite the article showing the RECENT trend of swing voters to be against impeachment.
What evidence do you have that most swing stat voters are all about impeachment?

Accurately pointing out you make false accusations of racism and you are extremely liberal is not smearing you, far left mon.

I would say your party's false accusations of people being Russian assets and white supremacists are the lies and smears.

I don't think fiscal conservatives going to agree with you that there's no difference b/t the parties on taxes, regulations, healthcare policy, etc. You come across as a socialist who doesn't want to own it.

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