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When the strategy proposed is "reduce their numbers" or "use measures to make it harder to vote, even for U.S. citizens", perhaps the political party involved should think about why said groups aren't voting for them. Instead of complaining "they vote democrat all the time", ask "why won't they vote GOP"?
Sounds familiar right? 1950s are not coming back unless by force.
I think about alot of people who scream "white genocide", and there is one thing I consider. It isn't dropping white birth rates that scare them. It's non-Whites having more babies that scares them.
We're not at full employment at this point. In fact, workforce participation has been dropping since the 2000s. On the flip side, many jobs have a hard time filling positions, mostly because of skill mismatch. There are also those who are perennially unemployable. And job discrimination is still taking place.
This is how I see the GOP. At one time there were more Hispanics and Asians voting GOP. Not so much nowadays. Some people want to return to the 1950s because they believe that America should be "whites only". Those days are gone.
Social values changed [example] ... my father worked for the same company for 15 years, before that he was Army 10 years ... point being, [he was no alone in that generation] if a person gave their word, they kept their word, because there isn't any honor in reneging on a deal. We don't find that any more. Too many companies that when a person went to retire they would figure out how to withhold their pensions. That 'word' works both ways ...
A person's word, use to be more powerful, than love --- family stays together, no matter what ... as the years progress people began to wonder why stand on principle, when principle is no longer being respected ...
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It's non-Whites having more babies that scares them.
The only group of people that are helping to hold the global birth rate at 2.5 are the people in undeveloped countries, where as a woman marries and gives to her husband roughly 8 children. And as social values begin to change in those countries ... so will the birth rate, as well.
It is all in our social values, not our justice system, except for maybe China were it was against the law to have more than one child, until recently --- they can now have two.
Immigrants did not change our values as we are the sons and daughters of those who came here before us ... We did that, we changed from our parents before us. We can not be 1950, just as 1950 can not be 2019.
Social values changed [example] ... my father worked for the same company for 15 years, before that he was Army 10 years ... point being, [he was no alone in that generation] if a person gave their word, they kept their word, because there isn't any honor in reneging on a deal. We don't find that any more. Too many companies that when a person went to retire they would figure out how to withhold their pensions. That 'word' works both ways ...
I was born in the 1980s and saw a different world. My paternal grandfather was part of the Great Migration and went North. He got a job in a factory relatively quickly. He was able to keep working until his death (he died somewhat young). My maternal grandfather worked for the same factory for years until his death. Even with the discriminatory job market in those days, my grandparents could keep their jobs. My father, on the other hand, has worked for several companies in his 4 decades of working. He has accepted that they're no such thing as company loyalty. I am in a labor market that is basically a meat grinder. I've learned not to believe what alot of people say.
Consider this. My parents lived in their respective home towns from birth to their 18th birthdays. I, on the other hand, lived in 3 different states during elementary school. And no, I'm not an "army brat".
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A person's word, use to be more powerful, than love --- family stays together, no matter what ... as the years progress people began to wonder why stand on principle, when principle is no longer being respected ...
In some cases, yes, a person lived by their word. In some cases, not so much. People can be fickle. I think with today, many people are just more brazen with no keeping their word.
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The only group of people that are helping to hold the global birth rate at 2.5 are the people in undeveloped countries, where as a woman marries and gives to her husband roughly 8 children. And as social values begin to change in those countries ... so will the birth rate, as well.
At one time, Europe had high birth rates, particularly southern and eastern Europe. Now, that has also changed. Currently, it is the developing world with higher birth rates. Those countries have a traditional way of viewing the world. One gets married and has many kids.
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It is all in our social values, not our justice system, except for maybe China were it was against the law to have more than one child, until recently --- they can now have two.
China is going to remain very crowded for a very long time, even with limiting the amount of children they have.
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Immigrants did not change our values as we are the sons and daughters of those who came here before us ... We did that, we changed from our parents before us. We can not be 1950, just as 1950 can not be 2019.
At one time, Americans had more children. My mother comes from a large family. I don't. And between my siblings, none of us even have children.
Sounds familiar right? 1950s are not coming back unless by force.
Just who wants the bad things about the 50's to come back? You guys keep repeating that nonsense. Why? There were some good things about that era but racism wasn't one of them and most don't want that to come back so why keep slamming the 50's?
I was born in the 1980s and saw a different world. My paternal grandfather was part of the Great Migration and went North. He got a job in a factory relatively quickly. He was able to keep working until his death (he died somewhat young). My maternal grandfather worked for the same factory for years until his death. Even with the discriminatory job market in those days, my grandparents could keep their jobs. My father, on the other hand, has worked for several companies in his 4 decades of working. He has accepted that they're no such thing as company loyalty. I am in a labor market that is basically a meat grinder. I've learned not to believe what alot of people say.
Consider this. My parents lived in their respective home towns from birth to their 18th birthdays. I, on the other hand, lived in 3 different states during elementary school. And no, I'm not an "army brat".
In some cases, yes, a person lived by their word. In some cases, not so much. People can be fickle. I think with today, many people are just more brazen with no keeping their word.
At one time, Europe had high birth rates, particularly southern and eastern Europe. Now, that has also changed. Currently, it is the developing world with higher birth rates. Those countries have a traditional way of viewing the world. One gets married and has many kids.
China is going to remain very crowded for a very long time, even with limiting the amount of children they have.
At one time, Americans had more children. My mother comes from a large family. I don't. And between my siblings, none of us even have children.
My grandmother (born late 1800's) was one of 9 children and my father born (1920) was one of a dozen ... for a woman to not marry before the age 18 in my grandmother's era was considered a spinster (old maid) and my grandmother did not marry until after her 18th birthday --- she was made to feel embarrassed --- see how that works? Social pressures and society changes and evolution continues.
The Baby Boomers is the largest generation born, globally and globally that have reached their expiration dates. In other words, China's population will be fine as well as the u.s for now, with the allowance of immigrants into the u.s. But as evolution continues all is subject to change.
Our greatest challenge, as always, adapt to the changes.
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I've learned not to believe what alot of people say.
You and me both. I grew up trusting; it took a bit, but I adapted to the modern day way of how some people will conduct themselves. It shocks me when I find people I can trust, but the knowing they are there, gives me hope for the future generations, who will continue to learn, the art of being human.
Just who wants the bad things about the 50's to come back? You guys keep repeating that nonsense. Why? There were some good things about that era but racism wasn't one of them and most don't want that to come back so why keep slamming the 50's?
Reminds me of a movie (can't remember the name of it) written taking place in a future time, in that a character said, 'they stand on principle, is that a thing anymore'?
70% of legal immigrants vote left/democrat decade after decade. Its time to stop all immigration.
Note that "immigrant" is not a demographic group. The same demographic groups among "immigrants" who mostly vote socialists, also exist among many-generation US citizens and they vote the same way.
Fine, stop all immigration anyway, and I say that as I am an immigrant.
Democrats were conflating the immigration status with other things (for example origin), and some republicans just picked up this democrat language (categorization and definitions) and run with it.
We should not allow immigrants(legal permanent residents) to naturalize for one compromise. Then let's see how much democrats care about immigrants and diversity. My preferred solution is basically no immigrants or at least no naturalizations and no birthright citizenship. Foreigners can visit and maybe a very few work visas but when your time is up, you got to go or you are removed.
Excuse me?
That actually was the case for Chinese and Japanese immigrants in the early 20th century - until the 1950s - they weren't allowed to naturalize.
Go stick that up where the sun don't shine. Your nostalgia for ethnic cleansing isn't going to happen.
That actually was the case for Chinese and Japanese immigrants in the early 20th century - until the 1950s - they weren't allowed to naturalize.
Go stick that up where the sun don't shine. Your nostalgia for ethnic cleansing isn't going to happen.
So what does it really matter, we were fighting a massive war against Japan in the 1940s. China and Japan aren't letting Americans naturalize to this day. Don't let any more naturalizations or immigrants from anywhere.
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