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View Poll Results: Do you see future of Republican party as Nationalist / populist or traditional conservatism
Nationalist / populist 28 73.68%
traditional Conservatism 10 26.32%
Voters: 38. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 11-20-2019, 10:31 AM
 
Location: Florida
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Wow, only 20% of Republicans are conservatives.........

Well, I guess it is not much of a surprise.

Trump single handedly got them to abandon their principles.
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Old 11-20-2019, 10:57 AM
 
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Trump Democrats, the white working class is the real story. Whites have been deserting the Democratic party for decades now.
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Old 11-20-2019, 11:29 AM
 
Location: Seattle
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What is the opposite of nationalism? Globalism?

What nation on earth puts the interests of other nations before its own interests? I guess some people are living in a fantasy land.

You are correct. Very few individual nations want any part of Globalism. However, the Deep State rulers of the planet have Globalism as one of their main, if not primary, objective. Do some research on New World Order.


Problem is they control the money and politics and have immense power.
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Old 11-20-2019, 03:57 PM
 
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establishment candidates 2024 , Mitt Romney, Rubio for sure, Pence, Haley, Palin, Cruz, or ryan?
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Old 11-20-2019, 05:05 PM
 
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You are correct. Very few individual nations want any part of Globalism. However, the Deep State rulers of the planet have Globalism as one of their main, if not primary, objective. Do some research on New World Order.


Problem is they control the money and politics and have immense power.
What you are describing is basically the Republican large donor base.
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Old 11-20-2019, 05:10 PM
 
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It would be nice if they dabbled with rationalism.
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Old 11-20-2019, 05:11 PM
 
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What you are describing is basically the Republican large donor base.
Exactly. The American oligarchs own the Republican Party.
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Old 11-20-2019, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Japan
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... the future of the Republican party is nationalism/populism or traditional conservatism?

The Republican Party today is an unnatural coalition between the two factions listed above. They are not the same, although there are many areas where their interests would overlap.

There are many areas where the groups can work together, but ultimately we may see a split and falling out of one or the other.
The establishment, globalist wing of the Republican Party is strictly AstroTurf. There are no roots there, no mass of real people who feel their values and beliefs are represented by those politicians and media people.
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Old 11-20-2019, 05:34 PM
 
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The establishment, globalist wing of the Republican Party is strictly AstroTurf. There are no roots there, no mass of real people who feel their values and beliefs are represented by those politicians and media people.
But the dark enlightenment, neo-reactionaries do represent the republican base?
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Old 11-20-2019, 07:50 PM
 
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You think its coercion.. and I think its voluntary. Who is right?
One can either move to another country... or vote for somebody that runs on no taxation.

Should one rather say at 18, you can:
Accept that living in the US one pays taxes.
Or
Not accept paying taxes, and renounce your citzensship and move out.




Well... good luck with that discussion nationally.
But, then one could just tax your employer for employing anybody.
You get to keep all "your salary"..
You employer have to pay your taxes. Thats within in the Constitution rights.
Wanna work for "yourself".. you gotta create a company, and that company has to pay "your taxes".
You get to keep all "your salary".




Because living in a complex society is complex.. and most people can't think complexly.
Should just those that love the military pay for the military... how many ships or brigades would the US be able to field you think if that is the case?

Living in a complex society, everybody needs to chip in to lower costs for everybody.

"Voluntary" ensures everything is underfunded.. if you want to live in a Amish society, sure Voluntary is great.
Want to live in the 21 or 22 Century, people actually have to pay for a society that works efficiently!!




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blah blah blah, no its not complex. You want to replace individual choice with rule by committee.
Your philosophy is toxic.
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