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Old 11-26-2019, 04:19 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Originally Posted by PedroMartinez View Post
You're free to believe every piece of nonsense you create in your mind if that helps the TDS.
I listen to my active Military buddies. I know quite a few. I never said if he was guilty or not - what I said was none one else should interfere on these proceedings. What now with the next court Martial ? Call mrT?

 
Old 11-26-2019, 04:25 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Originally Posted by prospectheightsresident View Post
Yep.

If you have a problem with the orders of the President of the United States as a subordinate US government/military officer, your recourse is to resign. Not to be insubordinate.

This just goes to show how deep the "resistance" goes.
Exactly.

I do wonder how many of the Trump-haters even knew the story behind this, before they instinctively started popping off
 
Old 11-26-2019, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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The Navy didn’t want to expel him from the Navy. They were expelling him from the Seals. He had a stripe taken from him, so apparently he did something wrong. Taking a senior non-commissioned officer’s stripe can only be done at Department of the Navy level upon recommendation from an O-4 or above.

And no...Trump DID NOT file anything. He stated his wishes in a tweet. The Navy Secretary said that he’d gotten no official directive from the Executive Branch, so he planned on proceeding with the Trident removal.

The Navy Secretary would do no such thing if the Seal’s commander and the Special Ops commander didn’t recommend his removal from the Seals.

Furthermore, they weren’t removing his Seal status based on the crime he was charged with in the trial. They were removing his Trident based on conduct unbecoming of a senior non commissioned officer. There was no double jeopardy here.

So again, the President is putting himself between the military and the UCMJ...unprecedented, and it’s unprecedented for a good reason. And in Trump’s case, he doesn’t know enough about that line of work to be inserting himself into matters that have a depth and tradition that’s WAY above his knowledge level. Trump knows absolutely nothing about the UCMJ and what military units have to do to maintain order. And in a group like the Seal Team, discipline is a must.

BTW...every schmo facing UCMJ thinks they’re getting railroaded. Is Trump gonna step in and give all of them a “just outcome” too?

SMH...for some of you, the President should be able to do anything he wants.
It sure looks like vengeful people were mad that Chief Gallagher was found innocent, and wanted revenge by destroying the man's career, over a minor offense of posing with a corpse.

The fired Navy Secretary Richard Spencer last week suggested a possible split with Trump by telling Reuters that Gallagher should still face a peer review board.

The SEAL was acquitted by a military jury in July of murdering a captured and wounded Islamic State fighter in Iraq by stabbing him in the neck, but it convicted him of illegally posing with the detainee’s corpse. That had led to his rank being reduced.
 
Old 11-26-2019, 04:35 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Gallaher was accused of several crimes including Murder of a terror suspect, shooting at civilians and posing with a dead body by his unit members. He was acquitted of all charges except posing with a dead body. The medic changed his story in the middle of the trial and claimed he killed the boy that Gallagher stabbed by strangling him.


He was demoted and convicted for posing with a dead body, Trump previously intervened and restored his rank. The hearing to remove his Trident and that of 3 others was in progress when Trump intervened.


https://www.navytimes.com/news/your-...murder-charge/
Do we know what motivated Trump to intervene?
 
Old 11-26-2019, 04:41 PM
 
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Gallagher told his fellow in his unit soldiers that he would kill them if they told anyone about how he was shooting children.

This is the man the C-D Trump voters are celebrating.


https://twitter.com/olgaNYC1211/stat...55404327129088
 
Old 11-26-2019, 08:51 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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He was forced to choose between Trump and the Constitution, and he chose the Constitution. It cost him his job, but not his reputation. The man is a patriot.
The same people that want pedophile and murder Rodney Reed set free, want this warrior locked up for life.
America 2019
 
Old 11-26-2019, 08:57 PM
 
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Spencer played a dangerous game... He was going to disobey his commander while lying to his commander about what he was really doing... He got caught and fired.... Liberals says he was a hero... I see a lying, disobedient POS.... Turns out he was really a zero...
 
Old 11-26-2019, 11:23 PM
 
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Now it is perfectly okay for American military to commit war crimes without consequence...how messed up is that?!
 
Old 11-26-2019, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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The same people that want pedophile and murder Rodney Reed set free, want this warrior locked up for life.
America 2019
Not at all. Totally different trials between military and civilian, and the laws differ as well. So do the appeals.
 
Old 11-27-2019, 05:38 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Do we know what motivated Trump to intervene?
Trump was also preparing to issue a pardon back in May prior to the trial but backed off. I don't see any clear reason for this group pardon other than politics.
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