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Old 12-08-2019, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Granted the solution to CFC's and HFC's was small compared to our current problem with fossil fuels but the world united for a solution.


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Nearly 50 years ago, three chemists named Mario Molina, Sherwood Rowland and Paul Crutzen found evidence that chlorofluorocarbons, chemicals known as CFCs and released from aerosol sprays, were weakening the ozone layer that functions as the earth’s natural sunscreen protecting humans, animals and plants from harmful radiation.
The discovery made big news and rattled the public. Aerosol sales dropped dramatically, and, despite pushback from the chemical companies that made CFCs, Congress in 1977 added protecting the ozone layer to the Environmental Protection Agency’s duties under the Clean Air Act.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/07/o...te-change.html
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Old 12-08-2019, 10:54 AM
 
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...doesn't that tell you it's a scam?

unless you think China and the vast majority of countries....developing...are suicidal
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:02 AM
 
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...doesn't that tell you it's a scam?

unless you think China and the vast majority of countries....developing...are suicidal
The ozone depletion was not a scam, there was world wide agreement on the problem and the solution. The solution took quite some time, there was some resistance but people at least agreed on the science.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:05 AM
 
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The ozone depletion was not a scam, there was world wide agreement on the problem and the solution. The solution took quite some time, there was some resistance but people at least agreed on the science.
But there is NOT world wide agreement on climate change.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:11 AM
 
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sun is going through a natural phase of solar minimums and the earths poles are shifting. nothing remains constant. where is that in the climate science being presented? have to scare people to tax them more - control them more. that is what it's all about.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:25 AM
 
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The ozone depletion was not a scam, there was world wide agreement on the problem and the solution. The solution took quite some time, there was some resistance but people at least agreed on the science.
Then you and I agree...

The world had to stop CFC's because ozone depletion was real....

....and China, India, and all the developing countries are increasing their CO2 emissions because global warming is not real
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:49 AM
 
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unless you think China and the vast majority of countries....developing...are suicidal
The word you're looking for is "short-sighted".
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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sun is going through a natural phase of solar minimums and the earths poles are shifting. nothing remains constant. where is that in the climate science being presented? have to scare people to tax them more - control them more. that is what it's all about.
Good grief....What's it going to take for people like you to admit that AGW is real, and is a huge problem?
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:53 AM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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It's easy to "solve" "problems" with a gun to a man's head.
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Old 12-08-2019, 11:55 AM
 
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The world had to stop CFC's because ozone depletion was real...
Actually, what we saw back then mirrors what we're seeing now: Moneyed interests fighting tooth and nail to muddy the issue, claim that there was no scientific consensus, and that we were going to cause a major economical upsets over a non-issue.

Humanity just lucked out that the producers of HFCs didn't have the political clout that the fossil fuel industry does. Signs are we aren't going to have that sort of happy outcome this time.

But hey, decades' worth of stockholder value isn't something to sneeze at, now is it?
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