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Old 12-13-2019, 09:53 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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And you are still posting against it with zero counter-argument. Name-calling ('revisionism') does not a counter-argument make.

Get back when you have a counter-argument. Otherwise it would be better for both of us if you'd just put me on your ignore list.
Naw, you're just being too clever by half by being contrarian. Still bovine residue.

It's like what a Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart said about pornography or smut - you know it when it sees it.

Just giving your arguments exactly the attention it merits.
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Old 12-13-2019, 10:07 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Why don't we have an EO that harsh criticism of American heritage is evidence to prove Anti-White intent? I don't want to quell free speech, but official recognition of what it is would be good.
Yes, you do want to quell free speech.

And I wonder why on earth you think that only non-white people criticize america's heritage.
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Old 12-13-2019, 11:19 PM
 
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Yes, you do want to quell free speech.

And I wonder why on earth you think that only non-white people criticize america's heritage.
You're just pulling stuff out of the air. I'm well aware and I'm sure I've mentioned many times white leftist are anti-America.
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:05 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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You're just pulling stuff out of the air. I'm well aware and I'm sure I've mentioned many times white leftist are anti-America.
Yes, you have. Just because you say it, that doesn't mean it's true.
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Old 12-14-2019, 12:16 AM
 
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Yes, you have. Just because you say it, that doesn't mean it's true.
No, I want what I just said. Harsh criticism of American heritage to be recognized as evidence of anti-whitism just as harsh criticism is considered for any other identity.
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Old 12-14-2019, 04:45 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Do you EVER, even once, give a supporting argument to buttress your name-calling?????

See the book I cited. It was written after a debate at Oxford U. over this very question. "We can know this" said one scholar to another. They went back to the US and compiled survey data to answer the question.

They show that the transformation of the South from blue to red was much more about economic policy than civil rights. Go read the book, and come back to apologize. I will be forgiving in spite of your usual irritating, puerile bombast.
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Nope. It was only in response to civil rights.

Economics? The Democrats had been EXTREMELY generous to white Southerners who were by far the poorest people in the country.
No, it was much more a phenomenon of economic policy than civil rights policy. See the book The End of Southern Exceptionalism by academics Shafer and Johnston.
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/catalog....=9780674032491

They use survey data to show this. The 'peripheral south,' or 'new South,' was the least racist and first to industrialize starting after WWII. They also were the first to turn Republican. The deep south (MS, etc) remained rural and non-industrial, and were the last to turn red.

Not that the South did not become majority red (as measured by congressional districts) until 1994, 30 years after the 1964 Civil Rights Act. If the transformation from blue to red had been about civil rights, it would have happened much faster.

You have to explain why the most racist regions of the South were the last to turn red. This is all proven using data in the book by Shafer and Johnston. Some will never believe it because it does not fit their pet narrative.
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Old 12-14-2019, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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Naw, you're just being too clever by half by being contrarian. Still bovine residue.

It's like what a Supreme Court justice Potter Stewart said about pornography or smut - you know it when it sees it.

Just giving your arguments exactly the attention it merits.
OK, so you double down on the name-calling approach. Please do not respond further until you can come up with an actual, fact-and-logic-based counter-argument. I won't be holding my breath....
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Old 12-14-2019, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Live:Downtown Phoenix, AZ/Work:Greater Los Angeles, CA
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The next time Fox News says something that could be seen as anti-Semitic, note the irony that their namesake, Hungarian-born immigrant and film producer William Fox, was Jewish (both ethnically and religiously).
It's Rupert Murdoch's and the late Roger Ailes' creature now
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Old 12-15-2019, 05:47 PM
 
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Default Trump's Order to Combat Anti-Semitism Divides Its Audience: American Jews

Do you agree with Trumps executive order?

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Amir Kashfi felt a sigh of relief when he heard that President Donald Trump had signed an executive order to combat anti-Semitism and the burgeoning anti-Israel movement on college campuses
https://news.yahoo.com/trumps-order-...131527480.html
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Old 12-15-2019, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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I don't know.

I agree there is growing anti-semitism, and it's a good thing for any US president to call anti-semites out, but I don't see anti-semitism as a problem confined to college campuses. So I have to wonder whether his EO is really about anti-semitism as much as it is about throttling free speech on campus.

And I'm pretty troubled by some of the people who support this. As the article notes, some of them are people who have at times said some disgustingly anti-semitic things themselves.

I guess I'll have to see how it plays out.

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