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Old 12-18-2019, 07:29 AM
 
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First Fisa lie/withholding of information contrary to claims in warrant request; October 2016

Second....January 2017

Third....April 2017

Fourth....June 2017

Pete & girlie outed and fired from Mueller investigation....August 2017 (So, Mueller knew two-four months - EF's timeline - before the public firing. In other words, Mr Mueller knew almost immediately that he had moles in the woodshed.

Interesting patterns, given the media cover-up, criminal collaboration timelines, which continued right to today.

More errors. Oops. Right.
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Old 12-18-2019, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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5 pages in? Where are the SJW's? Must still be asleep.
They know they're corrupt and dirty and don't care.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:09 AM
 
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This is direct evidence that the whole "Russian thing" was a farce from the getgo.
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Old 12-18-2019, 09:30 AM
 
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the federal government has actively tried to throw an election to the democrats…not once…but twice

…that’s the scariest thing of all
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:19 AM
 
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I get your point, largely agreeing with you. But, it is the progressive liberal faction (see the Founder's concerns) that has tried to thwart our federal system of government - a Constitutional Republic - to illegally change the outcome of the 2016 presidential election.

God Bless our founders for their infinite wisdom, human imperfections included.

Now! Repeal the 17th Amendment to fully restore our federalist system.
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the federal government has actively tried to throw an election to the democrats…not once…but twice

…that’s the scariest thing of all
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Old 12-18-2019, 11:37 AM
 
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The NY Times points out that IG Horowitz is already looking into other cases of the FBI abusing the FISA process:
Mr. Horowitz has already begun an audit of other, unrelated FISA applications to see whether there is a broader pattern of problems in how the F.B.I. is portraying the evidence about suspects. Another possibility for reform is that going forward, the bureau’s general counsel could oversee recurring audits of a random sampling of FISA applications, so that case agents will always have to take into account that someone may later second-guess their work.
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Old 12-19-2019, 07:00 AM
 
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The NY Times points out that IG Horowitz is already looking into other cases of the FBI abusing the FISA process:
Mr. Horowitz has already begun an audit of other, unrelated FISA applications to see whether there is a broader pattern of problems in how the F.B.I. is portraying the evidence about suspects. Another possibility for reform is that going forward, the bureau’s general counsel could oversee recurring audits of a random sampling of FISA applications, so that case agents will always have to take into account that someone may later second-guess their work.


FISA is only one part of this, and it will be interesting to see how other inquires and reports in the US and UK compare in terms of the wider picture.

As for Allied Foreign powers most have already stated that they are willing to cooperate.

Durham's probe will be far more reaching and is set to be released in spring time next year.

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Trump is openly urging his aides to get information from Italy, the UK and Ukraine, reports have said. The president has said: “It’s the greatest hoax, probably, in the history of our country and somebody has to get to the bottom of it.”

Trump’s administration has mounted two investigations into whether overseas agencies played a role in investigating his 2016 campaign. The first inquiry, led by the justice department inspector general, Michael Horowitz – now completed but unpublished – focussed narrowly on the background to the granting of a surveillance warrant in 2016 on the Trump campaign member Ceter Page.

The second review, set up by Barr in May and led by the US attorney John Durham, is looking at the origins of the Russia investigation, including whether there was bias against the Trump administration among senior officials in the security services.

Unlike Horowitz’s review, Durham’s has the power to convene a grand jury and subpoena people outside the government. The degree to which overseas intelligence agencies are dutybound to cooperate with the inquiry is unclear.

One UK government source said: “The intelligence relationship is so close that there is no need to pressurise the UK to cooperate.”

The Australian government has disclosed that it agreed formally in writing to cooperate, and it is known the former MI6 officer Christopher Steele cooperated extensively with Horowitz. He agreed to be interviewed by US justice department officials in London over his role in preparing a dossier on collusion between Russia and the Trump campaign. His evidence was in effect given under oath.

Durham has not been in touch with Steele, it is understood.

William Barr discussed FBI Russia inquiry with UK intelligence - The Guardian (October 2019)


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