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Old 12-22-2019, 08:07 AM
 
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
Pretty obvious by this point that you can't find/understand anything related to what you claim in the Jefferson manual you keep referring to.
Wrong again.
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In the House portion of Jefferson's Manual. Specifically, it also requires a resolution to complete the Impeachment...
The House debates the resolution and may at the conclusion consider the resolution as a whole or vote on each article of impeachment individually. A simple majority of those present and voting is required for each article for the resolution as a whole to pass. If the House votes to impeach, managers (typically referred to as "House managers", with a "lead House manager") are selected to present the case to the Senate. Recently, managers have been selected by resolution, while historically the House would occasionally elect the managers or pass a resolution allowing the appointment of managers at the discretion of the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. These managers are roughly the equivalent of the prosecution or district attorney in a standard criminal trial. Also, the House will adopt a resolution in order to notify the Senate of its action. After receiving the notice, the Senate will adopt an order notifying the House that it is ready to receive the managers. The House managers then appear before the bar of the Senate and exhibit the articles of impeachment. After the reading of the charges, the managers return and make a verbal report to the House.

THE IMPEACHMENT IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL THE HOUSE COMPLETES THE RESOLUTION AND SENDS IT TO THE US SENATE.


Trump has not been impeached if the US Senate never sees it.

At this point the US House has ONLY VOTED TO IMPEACH. They have not impeached the President per their own rules which they have followed since 1837.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:08 AM
 
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Wrong again.

At this point the US House has ONLY VOTED TO IMPEACH. They have not impeached the President per their own rules which they have followed since 1837.

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Old 12-22-2019, 08:09 AM
 
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YUP, and notice how fast they do a complete runner from that.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:10 AM
 
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Since you are so familiar with the Jefferson Manual, why not point us to the appropriate section? Or is it just something you heard on Fox?
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Not finding the appropriate sections of the the Jefferson Manual quoted about the impeachment in your link. Would you be so kind as to copy & paste them here as a quote? Thanks.
One would think some folks are simply unwilling to read the articles of impeachment?

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IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Mr. NADLER submitted the following resolution; which was referred to the Committee on

RESOLUTION

Impeaching Donald John Trump, President of the United States, for high crimes and misdemeanors.

Resolved That Donald J. Trump, President of the United States, is impeached for high crimes and misdemeanors and that the following articles of impeachment be exhibited to the United States Senate:
READ: Articles Of Impeachment Against President Trump

https://www.npr.org/2019/12/10/78657...resident-trump
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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McConnell was already gone within a day of the impeachment vote!



So, he was still there....thanks for verifying that no teeth nancy could have provided the articles to the senate....
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:13 AM
 
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One would think some folks are simply unwilling to read the articles of impeachment?

READ: Articles Of Impeachment Against President Trump
That's just ink on paper until the House sends it to the Senate. They have only vote to impeach, per their own rules nothing more.
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In the House portion of Jefferson's Manual. Specifically, it also requires a resolution to complete the Impeachment...
The House debates the resolution and may at the conclusion consider the resolution as a whole or vote on each article of impeachment individually. A simple majority of those present and voting is required for each article for the resolution as a whole to pass. If the House votes to impeach, managers (typically referred to as "House managers", with a "lead House manager") are selected to present the case to the Senate. Recently, managers have been selected by resolution, while historically the House would occasionally elect the managers or pass a resolution allowing the appointment of managers at the discretion of the Speaker of the United States House of Representatives. These managers are roughly the equivalent of the prosecution or district attorney in a standard criminal trial. Also, the House will adopt a resolution in order to notify the Senate of its action. After receiving the notice, the Senate will adopt an order notifying the House that it is ready to receive the managers. The House managers then appear before the bar of the Senate and exhibit the articles of impeachment. After the reading of the charges, the managers return and make a verbal report to the House.

THE IMPEACHMENT IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL THE HOUSE COMPLETES THE RESOLUTION AND SENDS IT TO THE US SENATE.


Trump has not been impeached if the US Senate never sees it.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:20 AM
 
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Wrong again.



At this point the US House has ONLY VOTED TO IMPEACH. They have not impeached the President per their own rules which they have followed since 1837.
Just curious, is "THE IMPEACHMENT IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL THE HOUSE COMPLETES THE RESOLUTION AND SENDS IT TO THE US SENATE." stated in the Jefferson Manual?
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:25 AM
 
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Just curious, is "THE IMPEACHMENT IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL THE HOUSE COMPLETES THE RESOLUTION AND SENDS IT TO THE US SENATE." stated in the Jefferson Manual?



Comprehension is a must.....
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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Comprehension is a must.....
In other words, "THE IMPEACHMENT IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL THE HOUSE COMPLETES THE RESOLUTION AND SENDS IT TO THE US SENATE." was made up and inserted to make it appear to be in the Jefferson Manual.

Nice try but we are not so easily fooled.
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Old 12-22-2019, 08:30 AM
 
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Just curious, is "THE IMPEACHMENT IS NOT COMPLETE UNTIL THE HOUSE COMPLETES THE RESOLUTION AND SENDS IT TO THE US SENATE." stated in the Jefferson Manual?
So you acknowledge the above rules DO government the Impeachment? And they were not just made up as your originally tried to imply? Is that correct?


Oh and that I wasn't just making it up? Please let us know before we move forward, because that was in response to all those claims of yours.
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