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I never said no taxation. That’s your extreme distortion.
Taxes shall be levied fairly upon the citizens. That means everyone needs to pay the same amount of taxes or let’s implement a sales tax eliminating all other taxes.
The current income tax is nothing but enslaving some people to benefit the rest.
That ^, 100%, and it's immoral slavery. Other countries tax very differently. I just posted info on that.
I think police presence keeps you somewhat safe / what if there is no sheriff or police or judge etc. Rem firemen and so forth ? And this is until this day. Tomorrow?? That mr mayhem guy can show up anytime , or just can’t happen to you ?
You think wrong. It’s the threat of being put in prison or killed keeping us safe. Again, the police’s job is to enforce the law, not to protect you or your property. The court has ruled a number of times on this.
Also, nobody uses police service. You can’t go to the police station and rent a cop. You can’t say someone is trying to kill you and you need protection. They will laugh at your face. You can’t sue them for failing to protect you either because that’s not their job to begin with.
Insurance is the transference of a risk to a third party in exchange for a premium.
All insurance, not just healthcare, is based on mutualized ( socialized) risks.
This correct. In our country we have two main risk-sharing mechanisms for healthcare. Medicare, in which the premiums are paid out of payroll taxes, and private insurance, in which premiums are paid either out of pocket or by one's employer (make no mistake; YOU are still paying the premium). Then we have Medicaid, which could also be considered a sort of risk-sharing, with the "premium" paid by taxes.
Anyway, all of the above are now mandatory, so I don't know if you consider those charity or not. For example, my employer takes a certain portion of my check for health insurance. Perhaps my coworker gets in a serious accident with high medical bills. Am I being "forced" to pay his bills? Well in a sense, yes.
You can take your socialism and move back to Mexico. I take care of me and mine. That’s it. If you can’t afford to feed them, don’t breed them but idiot liberals just hand out free money for other idiots to pump out child after child. They are not my responsibility nor societies problem.
Remember it’s the red states that use those giveaways more than the blue states - but again prove you are 100% self sufficient ? No roads, no schools, no lights -no public anything! - prove you do not partake -while you on a subsidized internet I would love to go to Mexico-
This correct. In our country we have two main risk-sharing mechanisms for healthcare. Medicare, in which the premiums are paid out of payroll taxes, and private insurance, in which premiums are paid either out of pocket or by one's employer (make no mistake; YOU are still paying the premium). .
Your employer pays their part, not you, and were they to decide not to buy it for you, salaries would NOT increase. So no Leo58, you are not paying their portion.
I've never had police presence keep me safe. When I was trying to get away from my forced husband, his cop buddies kept taking me back to him. After I turned 18, they finally stopped taking me back to him, but they also did nothing to protect me from him. I would've been better off if I'd been allowed to own a gun, but I had to be 21 for that. I was old enough to be raped and beaten but not old enough to have the legal right to defend myself.
I am very sad that happened to you- I hope you overcome that horrible trauma and somehow they all will be held accountable and rot in hell. In general some type of peace keepers keep all from going berserk and lawlessness goes amuck. Our military, judicial systems, govt as a whole. 99% do their jobs for the good of all. Again I’m sorry they did the opposite in your case.
Your employer pays their part, not you, and were they to decide not to buy it for you, salaries would NOT increase. So no Leo58, you are not paying their portion.
I am curious to those who voted no: Why should I be okay with being part of a socialist funding scheme to pay for police services? I'd rather have a socialist funding scheme to pay for healthcare
I have rarely had to ever use the services of police and I've never had them protect me or save my life.
But I have hade my life saved and my quality of life restored using the services of a healthcare provider.
I am curious to hear what your thoughts are.
You don’t know if the presence of a police force has saved your life or not.
Governments primary purpose is to protect it’s citizens from internal and external aggressors.
You don’t know if the presence of a police force has saved your life or not.
Governments primary purpose is to protect it’s citizens from internal and external aggressors.
Agreed!! The presence is there. Just like we know 9/10 if we have a fire we get firemen to show up ! Mitch McConnell just sweetened his state with billions of giveaway money - imagine that ? If you live in the states except for those woodsmen who live in the trees - you use government and subsidized utilities- this whole thread is bogus. Pointing fingers at the poor and uneducated as if we never receive entitlements. Even some of your jobs get them before they hired you ! Definitely some Scrooge mentality here! Glad some get it - while we enjoy the Holidays - some watching over us! Thank you
I doubt it, and have been in charge of corporate budgeting. Focus of corps is to raise income. Not having to pay Health Insurance claims or premiums (many self insured) would increase corporate earnings.
Our continuously strong economy (skilled workforce mainly) is why we still have Employer Health Insurance. As long as almost all corps offer it, no one feels they may drop it and still obtain a quality workforce. The biggest danger is the size of the skilled contractual workforce, especially those w/o benefits. The larger it gets, the more it allows corps to think they may drop medical benefits and still compete for their skilled workforce.
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I would love to go to Mexico-
