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Old 12-30-2019, 07:32 AM
 
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Furthermore what would be interesting to use this for is we broke it down based on illegal population who pay no federal taxes. In that case states like CA, NY, TX and WA are receiving much more than they should be.
How is WA filled with illegals? Cite the study, that is just ridiculous. Further, many illegals pay taxes and Social Security which they can never get back.

WA is a giver state full stop. Red states are overwhelmingly DEPENDENT on the disgusting generosity of blue states.

Citing roads in Nebraska as if the Nebraska economy doesn't completely depend on the money those travelers generate is ridiculous. What's more, as a low population state, we are subsidizing them for infrastructure as we do for every low population state that has no economy to speak of. Further, how many of those Trump loving farmers in Nebraska are receiving billions in Trump money courtesy of taxpayers? If you find an answer to that, I've got hundreds more examples for you.

Such as, why are US taxpayers on the hook for billions to coal miners including retirement benefits and healthcare for LIFE because their PRIVATE pension failed? Are they giving up Social Security in exchange for it? Are they receiving BOTH? Yes. Why doesn't every American get two checks? I'll tell you why, because they live in Trump loving red states. Trump can't throw money to farmers and coal miners fast enough and his minions just keep passing the billions to them just like McConnell just got a BILLION dollars for Kentucky when Kentucky is #3 as the most federally dependent state in the country and one of the top five states on Disability.
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:36 AM
 
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It does. Disability:

Dem: 64%
Republican: 25%

Read the link I posted. Again, more than 2 to 1 Dem to Republican.
Both studies are from 2012. Try harder. And don't provide creepy links that make Chrome think a virus is about to attack.
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:40 AM
 
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Both studies are from 2012. Try harder. And don't provide creepy links that make Chrome think a virus is about to attack.
Post a more recent Maxwell Poll if you have it.

And what a shame that you think FACTS are "creepy." /smh. Tino had to protect his publication of the FACTS from deranged lefties (hence, the DDOS attack protection) who were outraged when the truth was revealed. Seems you're in that camp, as well?
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:42 AM
 
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Post a more recent Maxwell Poll if you have it.

And what a shame that you think FACTS are "creepy." /smh. Tino had to protect his publication of the FACTS from deranged lefties (hence, the DDOS attack protection) who were outraged when the truth was revealed. Seems you're in that camp, as well?
No, it is not my job to cite studies for you. That study is eight years old. Further, when the links freak out the browser, the data and sources are extremely questionable. Even FOX articles don't incite a reaction like that link did.
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:44 AM
 
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How is WA filled with illegals? Cite the study, that is just ridiculous. Further, many illegals pay taxes and Social Security which they can never get back.

WA is a giver state full stop. Red states are overwhelmingly DEPENDENT on the disgusting generosity of blue states.

Citing roads in Nebraska as if the Nebraska economy doesn't completely depend on the money those travelers generate is ridiculous. What's more, as a low population state, we are subsidizing them for infrastructure as we do for every low population state that has no economy to speak of. Further, how many of those Trump loving farmers in Nebraska are receiving billions in Trump money courtesy of taxpayers? If you find an answer to that, I've got hundreds more examples for you.

Such as, why are US taxpayers on the hook for billions to coal miners including retirement benefits and healthcare for LIFE because their PRIVATE pension failed? Are they giving up Social Security in exchange for it? Are they receiving BOTH? Yes. Why doesn't every American get two checks? I'll tell you why, because they live in Trump loving red states. Trump can't throw money to farmers and coal miners fast enough and his minions just keep passing the billions to them just like McConnell just got a BILLION dollars for Kentucky when Kentucky is #3 as the most federally dependent state in the country and one of the top five states on Disability.
Don’t care. Immediately and forcefully eject all illegal aliens.
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:45 AM
 
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No, it is not my job to cite studies for you. That study is eight years old. Further, when the links freak out the browser, the data and sources are extremely questionable. Even FOX articles don't incite a reaction like that link did.
DDOS protection is NOT "freaking out the browser."

Let me guess... You're technologically illiterate. /smh
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:46 AM
 
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Don’t care. Immediately and forcefully eject all illegal aliens.
But keep sending billions of taxpayer dollars to farmers, coal miners, Disability recipients and Kentucky, right?
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:47 AM
 
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Two charts from two different valid sources:

The CRS chart (Figure 2) on page 11, here.

And the PGPF chart.

The PGPF chart is interesting in that it includes how federal excise taxes and the corporate income tax affects each income group. Most people don't realize that corporate income tax is included as overhead in the pricing formula for goods/services and is therefore embedded in the price of everything we buy. Corporations dont actually pay it. It's passed on to the end users/consumers. It's a hidden tax on whoever buys a corporation's goods or services.

Page 5 of your publication is different as are the IRS numbers.
https://www.troweprice.com/personal-...schedules.html
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:49 AM
 
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How is WA filled with illegals?

Relative to the total population of the state it's quite high, so much so if House and electoral seats were allocated based on the legal population it would lose a seat/EC vote based on one study. That's only one of ten seats that would be reallocated, the others are in CA(5), TX(2), FL(1) and NY(1).


In other words the illegal population in WA relative to the legal population is similar to NY.



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Further, many illegals pay taxes and Social Security which they can never get back.
....if they are doing that it's because they have stolen someone's identity which is even worse.





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Citing roads in Nebraska as if the Nebraska economy doesn't completely depend on the money those travelers generate is ridiculous.
The trucks traveling through Nebraska carrying billions in dollars in goods between NY and SF might stop for fuel or lunch but I'm not sure what other benefit Nebraska gets.



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What's more, as a low population state, we are subsidizing them for infrastructure
Nebraska doesn't need that road for local transportation.
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Old 12-30-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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Page 5 of your publication is different as are the IRS numbers.
https://www.troweprice.com/personal-...schedules.html
Are you really trying to claim that marginal tax rates are the same as effective tax rates? That's idiotic.
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