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Old 12-27-2019, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Clyde Hill, WA
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I have been saying for months that I welcome an investigation into Biden and his son through legitimate means, not by asking a foreign country for political favors. If the DOJ, FBI or Senate o whatever agency needs to be the one wants to do that, then do it. I don't see what either Biden adds to Trump's impeachment trial. I have said it before. Both Biden and Trump may be corrupt. One being corrupt does not negate the real chance that the other one is corrupt as well.
The problem is that the DOJ and FBI have no real authority on Ukrainian soil. The Hunter Biden saga dates back to 2013, and in all that time nothing was done. That probably was why Trump felt it necessary to reach out to Zelensky in the first place.
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Old 12-27-2019, 06:34 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Are any Democrats concerned about the issue with his son and his refusal to address it? It sounds almost identical to how Clinton handled the issue with her emails.
I would be more concerned about Trumps testimony, when can we expect him.
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Old 12-27-2019, 06:35 PM
 
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Funny that he thinks he'd have a say in the matter.
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Old 12-27-2019, 06:41 PM
 
Location: United States
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I would be more concerned about Trumps testimony, when can we expect him.
Probably about the same time Adam Schiff agrees to testify.
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Old 12-27-2019, 06:43 PM
 
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In an interview with the Des Moines Register, he said he would refuse to testify at the impeachment trial.
Have fun in jail, Joe!
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Old 12-27-2019, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Boston
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I would be more concerned about Trumps testimony, when can we expect him.
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Old 12-27-2019, 06:50 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Have fun in jail, Joe!
They are saving Jeffrey Epstein's jail cell for Joe...with the same cellmate. It's even decorated just the same...rope and all. I heard the only new item will be a Ukranian Bible.
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Old 12-27-2019, 07:09 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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The problem is that the DOJ and FBI have no real authority on Ukrainian soil. The Hunter Biden saga dates back to 2013, and in all that time nothing was done. That probably was why Trump felt it necessary to reach out to Zelensky in the first place.
Very true agencies have little power in foreign countries, one of the reasons the Mueller investigation of Manafort and Gates was limited when it came to Ukraine.
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Old 12-27-2019, 07:17 PM
 
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In an interview with the Des Moines Register, he said he would refuse to testify at the impeachment trial.

Are Democrats going to nominate Hillary Clinton 2.0? Please do it lol. You guys will lose the electoral vote.
That's interesting, and maybe even surprising - but it's really not relevant. No matter what you may imagine Biden did (and the accusations against him have already been debunked), it's really irrelevant to Trump's trial.

Imagine if for Bill Clinton's impeachment, he had wanted to call Newt Gingrich as a witness, to highlight Gingrich's own infidelity and deception. Irrelevant, right?
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Old 12-27-2019, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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That's interesting, and maybe even surprising - but it's really not relevant. No matter what you may imagine Biden did (and the accusations against him have already been debunked), it's really irrelevant to Trump's trial.

Imagine if for Bill Clinton's impeachment, he had wanted to call Newt Gingrich as a witness, to highlight Gingrich's own infidelity and deception. Irrelevant, right?
Yes it is relevant. Biden's elleged acts are why Trump did what he did. They are directly connected.
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