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Old 01-23-2020, 09:10 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Drive through deep-red Appalachia, and then we’ll chat.
Or Tulsa or Oklahoma City or Mesa or.....

Large cities are large because they have more jobs. Large cities have more of everything, good, bad and ugly. There are pockets of dire poverty in every large city.

Undereducated people with minimal marketable skills tend not to be qualified for much beyond low paying, dead end jobs. They do however, have opportunities to learn marketable skills. It take personal motivation and discipline.

The people who work in large cities usually rely on public transportation to commute to work, regardless of where they live or type of job held. Most people don’t walk down the block to work.

It is nearly impossible to help people who will not help themselves and politics does not matter.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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That's a nice excuse for 8 years of accomplishing nothing.
You could say the same about every President that has been in office.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:20 AM
 
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I had a social engagement in Bala Cynwyd and instead of traveling there via the Chestnut Hill/Germantown area as I normally would, I traveled via Broad Street through the heart of North Philly. I have to tell you it was quite a sad state of affairs. There was urban blight and decay as far as the eye could see. The streets were filled with poor, indigent people whose descendants will likely never escape the cycle of poverty. There is virtually zero corporate presence anywhere in the vicinity. Nary an office, a manufacturing plant, or even a Walmart. The only jobs the residents have access to are low paying, dead-end service jobs, and the only commerce they have access to are seedy, run-down stores who who bleed their customers dry because they have nowhere else to go. It's almost as if decades of voting for Venezuelan style socialism has failed the city miserably. Philadelphia city government is filled with despotic Democrats from top to bottom, who are elected based on false pretenses of social progress. These officials, by way of taxation, have embezzle wealth from the few productive individuals and entities left within the city, lined their own pockets, then their cronies who put them in office, and finally the few crumbs that are leftover after the skim are divided amongst the general public. The Democrat Party devolved from Martin Luther King, Jr.'s 'I have a dream' to 'I have a scheme'. I presume Donald Trump is less popular in the city than Adolf Hitler.

This city has not elected a Republican to any office in more than half a century. It's evident that Barack Hussein Obama did absolutely nothing for these people. The city is every bit as decayed as it was ten years ago when I drove through on a daily basis. After eight years of looting the public treasury, Mr. and Mrs. Obama are making millions and millions of dollars off of their celebrity status, while their core voting base continues to rot in the gutter. The profiteering off of poverty is inherent to socialist government. Along comes Bernie 'the Seltzer Man' Sanders and Elizabeth 'Stands with a Fist' Warren, two of the most dangerous individuals ever to enter United States politics. The city of Philadelphia is the poster child realization of their politics. Commerce, religion, and the nuclear family are scant whereas drugs, guns, and poverty are prolific. How insane does a person have to be to want this for the whole country?
I was with you until you have to throw in that inaccurate information about Obama being the cause. Urban blight started long before he ever made the scene. I remember Philly when people owned their row homes and they took great pride in their neighborhoods. I remember being able to sit out on the front steps late at night and feeling safe. Those days disappeared 40 years ago.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:23 AM
 
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Strange how the OP blames Obama for not fixing the problems of N. Philly but gives trump a pass.
Not really. These are individuals who hate Obama, who are against anyone who doesn't think like them.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:25 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Drive through deep-red Appalachia, and then we’ll chat.
Conservatives never post about that.

I've lived in both. Raised in the deep south.

Give me a city any day. Any day.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:27 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Not really. These are individuals who hate Obama, who are against anyone who doesn't think like them.

Again, very few blame Obama, but do blame the Democrat City leadership. Obama just happened to believe in the same FAILED policies these city leaders embrace. Very few say the city's circumstances are Obama's, Bush, Clinton, or Trump's fault.

If you want to put real blame on a President and the Dem Congress of that era, you have to go back to LBJ who created this generational welfare state, government DEPENDENCY we have that has helped kill these areas.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:30 AM
 
Location: New Albany, Indiana (Greater Louisville)
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The vast majority of Blacks don't live in Black majority low income census tracts. I don't judge everyone by only the poorest members of their community.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:30 AM
 
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there is a rot in these communities that will never be fixed...its best to let them kill each other off

if you cut off the welfare and section 8 that would help too
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Barrington
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Great post. You need to be in a tank to drive through North Philly. But it's not unique - Pick any city that's run by liberal democrats for 50 years and you'll get the same thing. Chicago, Baltimore, many parts of NYC, Newark, and on and on. But North Philly is definitely among the worst.
Every large city has pockets of blight no matter who is mayor or party.

Ghettos and homelessness were prevalent in large East Coast cities 250 years ago as immigrants from all over the world poured in.

Ghettos do not last forever. Sooner or later, gentrification prevails and displaces people who can no longer afford to rent in these areas. Been going on for hundreds of years.
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Old 01-23-2020, 09:37 AM
 
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But they always seem to use "black examples" of "democrats bad". They are trying to kill two birds with one stone, so to speak. They are casting aspersion upon democrats and blacks. If not for black people.....what would they point to as example of democrats failures? Blacks, whom they see as inferior.....can and are used to caste the democratic party as inferior.
I've pointed out that you can find those pockets of poverty and hopelessness in Republican cities. No answers. Miami has a GOP mayor and has had many Republican mayors in the past. There is a large gap between the rich and poor in Miami, and alot of homelessness in Miami.

It wouldn't surprise me to find people who use "Democrat" as a dogwhistle for "Blacks". Criticize Democrats while speaking ill of Blacks. This is when no one will answer for Madison,WI. A Democratic city that has a low crime rate, high quality of life, and plenty of jobs.
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