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Old 02-02-2020, 03:29 PM
 
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Do you think the Vichy were any better than the Nazi's?
Obviously not. Should’ve killed even more Vichy than we did.
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Old 02-02-2020, 03:33 PM
 
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There are many Americans who dont even care about this, they look at those 'middle eastern people' and see them ALL as criminals and terrorists!


You have to wonder what the drone operators are feeling...sitting in some air conditioned /heated command center and dropping bombs with the push of a button! These are the REAL cowards imo.
i would think one wants as little risk as possible for ones own troops....but...if there is NO risk and killing is push/button robots a whole new perspective is brought into play..the average American looks upon warfare with the intellectual capacity of a junior high schooler and actually chants USA USA as if it was a pep rally...this is BIG BUSINESS...in a different post you refer to dea controlled opiates...i suggest you research into the Dulles brothers and were all this originated with the rail roads of the 19th century and their connection to the Banking industry and wall street an alphabet soup of agencies exist within the "inteligence sector"

https://danielpsheehan.com/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69Ct...ature=emb_logo


all big business has spread sheets and studies of every conceivable angle the oil companies included..if a new pipeline is needed then an assessment will be done to determine the stability of the region and then whatever is needed will be done to control the stability of the region....one cannot install democracy depending on culture it takes generations all the political types just give one line of BS which one chooses to like better (no truth)

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Old 02-02-2020, 03:41 PM
 
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Amoral sociopaths who who support an amoral sociopath in the White House do not care about civilian casualties.

Ask yourself: What other country on earth has killed foreign citizens of another country like the United States has since 2001?

Answer: No one.

Sociopaths come in all flavors:

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“Turns out I’m really good at killing people,” Obama said quietly, “Didn’t know that was gonna be a strong suit of mine.”

According to Mark Halperin and John Heilemann, the authors of Double Down: Game Change 2012, Obama made the comment while discussing drone strikes last year. CNN‘s Peter Hamby noted the anecdote in his review of the book for the Washington Post.

Obama, who was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize in 2009, has overseen the expansion of the CIA’s targeted killing program, which the Bureau of Investigative Journalism estimates has killed between 2,528 and 3,648 individuals in Pakistan since 2004. That organization also estimates that between 416 and 948 of those killed in drone strikes were civilians — an estimate disputed by the Obama administration.

Among those civilians, according to Amnesty International, was a Pakistani grandmother killed alongside 18 civilian laborers in a 2012 strike. The grandmother’s family came to Washington, D.C., last month to testify before Congress and urge an end to drone warfare.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:01 PM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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At what point do we stop this horror? At what point are we doing more damage to ourselves than good?

https://original.antiwar.com/Brett_W...ban-commander/



Our "industrial military complex" and our "forever wars" are out of control.

Both political parties are to blame. Hold both parties accountable!
But most people refuse to vote for a third party as a means to punish the two main parties.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:02 PM
 
Location: Native of Any Beach/FL
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Sorry sweetie, in the year 2020 the problem is Islam.
It is 2020 the base is Islamic people, but only the radicals who follow some deranged figure. Not all Muslims are at war in the world.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:06 PM
 
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If it was Russia that did this, imagine the freaking out that would occur.

But only the US reserves the right to kill civilians throughout the world, lol.
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:11 PM
 
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If it was Russia that did this, imagine the freaking out that would occur.

But only the US reserves the right to kill civilians throughout the world, lol.

i suspect China does similar but it not in our news feed because the US can do little to counter chinese military moves...china is all over Africa and such with little news coverage
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Boston
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Obama is the biggest arms dealer the world has ever known, he agreed to sell Saudi Arabia more than $100 Billion dollars worth. Sounds like a worthy Nobel Peace Prize recipient
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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Oh so we can only attack Trump but when your guy did it, then we shouldn’t bring it up. I just love your hypocrisy.

Once again, Trump used the same exact list of countries Obama marked as states supporting terrorism. If Trump has added, deleted or changed it, you Leftists would have bashed that too.

Right wingers went off on Obama's drone strikes frequently and repeatedly. Why should left wingers behave any differently when your boy blows a bunch of civilians up?
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Old 02-02-2020, 04:34 PM
 
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You can't win the war from the air.

In 2019, the military conducted 7,423 airstrikes in Afghanistan, more than five times the 1,337 airstrikes of Obama’s final year as commander in chief. At the height of Obama’s Afghanistan surge, the high-water mark for airstrikes was 5,411 in a single year (2011). In three years, Trump has launched 19,146 airstrikes in Afghanistan, more than the 18,758 of Obama’s entire first term.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/statis...rge-has-failed
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