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Old 02-08-2020, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't like that the manipulate (change) data to get the outcome they want to wrongly demonize fossil fuel due to the hoax that man is responsible for weather. Their models are also rigged to get the outcomes they want to force large government, and higher taxes, fees and penalties on fossil fuels. This means EVERYTHING becomes much more expensive and government grows at an even faster rate.


You're wrong, but can't admit it. MMGW is a religion, and you just proved it.
What is your scientific source that they manipulate data, or is that just your opinion. How exactly did they "rig" the models, is that also your opinion.


Yes we have to change behavior to address climate change or are you claiming man isn't responsible.

 
Old 02-08-2020, 01:05 PM
 
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First of all the planet doesn't operate on 1500 year cycles, its closer to millions of years. So you're claiming that the changes in the last hundred years is a change in orbit or the suns intensity. Do you have a source for that claim.
Changes in weather can be short over a 1500 year time frame to over millions of years. The source is from me. It is not man made slade.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Changes in weather can be short over a 1500 year time frame to over millions of years. The source is from me. It is not man made slade.

This is a good article on the Milankovitch Cycles, changes in Obliquity, Eccentricity and precession is 41,000, 100,000 years and 26,000 years respectively.


Just making up your own science does not make a convincing argument. Besides, even your self invented 1500 year cycle doesn't explain the 1 deg temperature increase in the past century.


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Obliquity is the earth’s tilt relative to the earth's orbit around the sun. The earth’s tilt causes the seasons (see Tilt and Latitude under Background and Basics). The tilt away from the axis changes from 22.1° to 24.5° over a period of 41,000 years. The current tilt is 23.5° and is slowly decreasing. When the tilt becomes larger, the seasons are more extreme, with more severe winter and summer weather. When the tilt is smaller, the seasons are milder and less different from each other.

https://climate.ncsu.edu/edu/Milankovitch
 
Old 02-08-2020, 03:21 PM
 
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This is a good article on the Milankovitch Cycles, changes in Obliquity, Eccentricity and precession is 41,000, 100,000 years and 26,000 years respectively.


Just making up your own science does not make a convincing argument. Besides, even your self invented 1500 year cycle doesn't explain the 1 deg temperature increase in the past century.





https://climate.ncsu.edu/edu/Milankovitch
I don't need to make up anything. What i type goes. The 1500 year cycle sure does tell the story in the 4.28 degree rise i have seen in my area since 1977 Good nite nurse.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 03:23 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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What is your scientific source that they manipulate data, or is that just your opinion. How exactly did they "rig" the models, is that also your opinion.


Yes we have to change behavior to address climate change or are you claiming man isn't responsible.


 
Old 02-08-2020, 03:37 PM
 
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the only thing man is responsible for is the UN/IPCC...and their climate scientists....scam that goes with it...

developed 1st world countries have to reduce their emissions....and pay developing countries...

while China, India, and the rest of the developing countries get to increase their CO2 emissions off the chart

All of the increase in CO2 has come from them > https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ederations.png
 
Old 02-08-2020, 03:44 PM
 
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No country has reduced it's CO2 emissions more than the USA....USA's emissions are as low as it was 50 years ago

....and no country has increased it more than China > https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-6iEO_vR1O...-Emissions.png

You fanatics want people to stop thinking it's a scam....then start acting like it's not a scam
...blame the countries that are doing it....starting with China
 
Old 02-08-2020, 03:57 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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I don't need to make up anything. What i type goes. The 1500 year cycle sure does tell the story in the 4.28 degree rise i have seen in my area since 1977 Good nite nurse.
You just stated that you are the source of the 1500 year cycle If you didn't make it up then lets hear from your source.


Now you just added that there is a 4.28 degree rise since 1977 based on......
 
Old 02-08-2020, 05:07 PM
 
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You just stated that you are the source of the 1500 year cycle If you didn't make it up then lets hear from your source.


Now you just added that there is a 4.28 degree rise since 1977 based on......
My source is me my man. Based on the weather records i have kept since the 70's for the Tampa area of FL. But me moving right on the gulf have skewed the figs some since i have much warmer lows that i did in Tampa. Just look at all the above normal temps in FL since 2011 vs the below normal temps and that is all ya gotta know.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 11:16 PM
 
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To bolster their claims of global warming, NOAA has to adjust past temperature records to hide the heat of the past to show apparent warming today. It is a DISGUSTING display of LIES all to further the globalists lust for power and control.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hElTSfQEdsk

I sincerely hope that after reelection, Trump can tackle this caravan of LIES!
We don't need NOAA or anyone else to tell us what we already know. It's called common sense. Just look around and see what's happening with our climate. Don't look at Trump for answers. Take care of our environment for your kids and grand kids and future generations.
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