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Old 02-07-2020, 12:58 PM
 
Location: Philaburbia
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Interesting, how each program they offer ends up causing the cost of daycare to soar: Having 4 to 1 ratios, having books full of regulations, when cities like DC offer pre-school for all the raise the prices for everyone because 4 year subsidize the infants that the daycares tend to lose a fortune on. Now this, where they want to align daycare workers wages to elementary teachers, cant even imagine the costs with the 4 to 1 ratios.
You ignored this part of the article about aligning child care workers to elementary school teachers - with similar credentials. An assistant teacher with a Child Development Associate certificate would not be aligned with an experienced elementary school teacher who has a bachelor's degree and 10 years of experience under his/her belt. A preschool teacher with a bachelor's degree would have the wage schedule aligned with an elementary school teacher's wage schedule - similar education, and wage growth based on experience.

Lead teachers in my organization are required to have a bachelor's degree and make about $13/hour in my market. Assistant teachers are not required to have a degree, but they earn much less.

Wages for child care workers are so low that many teachers are eligible for state child care assistance, or for state-funded preschool. The teachers worry about getting promotions and raises because those raises don't cover the loss in child care assistance. Turnover is high; preschool teachers put in long days for lower salaries than elementary school teachers.

The public wants able-bodied adults to get out and work, but without child care, a lot of them can't. A lack of teachers means fewer preschool classrooms. Do you see the problem?

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The Left (Democrats) just wants government to control everything.
News flash: Government already controls child care. State governments determine adult-to-child ratios, what and when the children can and cannot be fed, what the children are going to learn, what toys and learning materials should be in the classrooms ...

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...hey, here's a novel idea, how's about staying home and raising your own kids?...as opposed to...dropping them off where they'll be taken care of by $7.50 an hour immigrants, and for sure they'll get the same love and care that you would provide at home...but hey, they're your kids, do what you want....
Sure, so under your scenario a single parent should stay home with the kids ... and what? Apply for welfare, SNAP, WIC, Medicaid ... You're OK with that?
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:30 PM
 
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More proof that the pro-life conservatives are a bunch of hypocrites. They sure do love those fetuses and demand every single one of them must be saved, but are more than happy to see the resulting children in daycare centers where workers are making minimum wage and the low quality of caregivers that produces. Proof once more that they don't really care about children once they are through the birth canal.

Amazing how so many other countries are able to take care of their children and put them first, but the U.S. cannot manage it. I guess we aren't as smart as the rest of the world.
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:55 PM
 
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Classic conservatism. Preach about the sanctity of life but discount nurturing that life...
Huh? How does this make any sense to you? Why do you people think that adding red tape and artificially inflating the price has any correlation to the quality of care? All making it more expensive does is force people to work more so they have less time to spend with their kids. Actually think for once.
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:57 PM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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A raise would be justified for these day care workers. But to that salary level is too high.

I could see going from the $8-10/hour they currently make to $15-18/hour or so, which is the equivalent of roughly $35-40k/annually.

But $57k is way too high.
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Old 02-07-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: southern california
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Communist system like Cuba - dishwashers and doctors draw the same wage -but it’s not 60k -once implemented it’s $25 a month
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Old 02-07-2020, 02:01 PM
 
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Elder care is extraordinary expensive because the right won’t allow the importation of foreign workers. They want to control everything.
So you are admitting immigrants, legal and illegal, drive down wages?

Are you also one of those screaming for a "living wage" also?
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Old 02-07-2020, 02:07 PM
 
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A raise would be justified for these day care workers. But to that salary level is too high.

I could see going from the $8-10/hour they currently make to $15-18/hour or so, which is the equivalent of roughly $35-40k/annually.

But $57k is way too high.
Actually 36K is the median starting wage for elementary school teachers. I'm sure 57K is the high end probably with a master and tenure.
Also this only applies to federal daycare workers. The government can not set the wages for private employers (other than a federal minimum wage across the board).

Less government requirements would lower the price of daycare but thats not what most people want.
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Old 02-07-2020, 02:10 PM
 
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Actually 36K is the median starting wage for elementary school teachers. I'm sure 57K is the high end probably with a master and tenure.
Also this only applies to federal daycare workers. The government can not set the wages for private employers (other than a federal minimum wage across the board).

Less government requirements would lower the price of daycare but thats not what most people want.
Then you aren't talking to people who actually have to pay for daycare. Frankly anyone advocating for more govt involvement in the daycare industry is completely out of touch and should have their opinion dismissed out of hand. It needs to be made more affordable not less.
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Old 02-07-2020, 02:20 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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More proof that the pro-life conservatives are a bunch of hypocrites. They sure do love those fetuses and demand every single one of them must be saved, but are more than happy to see the resulting children in daycare centers where workers are making minimum wage and the low quality of caregivers that produces. Proof once more that they don't really care about children once they are through the birth canal.

Amazing how so many other countries are able to take care of their children and put them first, but the U.S. cannot manage it. I guess we aren't as smart as the rest of the world.
Again - these so-called pro-lifers who believes life begins at conception and ends at birth, in terms of the money and attention devoted to policy.
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Old 02-07-2020, 02:27 PM
 
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A raise would be justified for these day care workers. But to that salary level is too high.

I could see going from the $8-10/hour they currently make to $15-18/hour or so, which is the equivalent of roughly $35-40k/annually.

But $57k is way too high.
Based on?
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