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Old 02-08-2020, 09:14 PM
 
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The closest thing we've had to Hitler is Obama.
There were some similarities under Obama too. But no one believed it ...

Obama’s ‘National Security Force?’

I watched him give that speech. I had just returned home from a VISTA tour that had ended badly. I knew what he was saying when he said it and I thought for sure, people would see it too and not vote for the guy.

He went on to give (just as well funded as the military) funding to the National and Community Service, probably one of the largest they have had ... when Trump took office he pulled those funds ... then later gave it back.

Then how could one forget Jade Helm ... c-d had a thread on that.

Any way ... we see some of the same under Trump, oh and Bush before Obama ... but people go nope, it isn't real. That's what they said about Hitler too ... just saying.

 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Ellis Bell View Post
There were some similarities under Obama too. But no one believed it ...

Obama’s ‘National Security Force?’

I watched him give that speech. I had just returned home from a VISTA tour that had ended badly. I knew what he was saying when he said it and I thought for sure, people would see it too and not vote for the guy.

He went on to give (just as well funded as the military) funding to the National and Community Service, probably one of the largest they have had ... when Trump took office he pulled those funds ... then later gave it back.

Then how could one forget Jade Helm ... c-d had a thread on that.

Any way ... we see some of the same under Trump, oh and Bush before Obama ... but people go nope, it isn't real. That's what they said about Hitler too ... just saying.
What do you see under Trump? His revocation of the treasonous Obama’s executive orders taking firearms from law abiding citizens? Trump’s respect for disabled vets and their hospitals, where O had none?

Obama started to actively purge the DoD of officers. Remember that, too?
 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:26 PM
 
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@ilovelondon,

Only progressives are responsive to the words Socialist and Workers.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:29 PM
 
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What do you see under Trump? His revocation of the treasonous Obama’s executive orders taking firearms from law abiding citizens? Trump’s respect for disabled vets and their hospitals, where O had none?

Obama actively purged the DoD of officers who were determined by Obama to be ones who would not turn against their own fellow citizens. Remember that, too?
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What do you see under Trump?
I see many things, because I am not like him ... and if a person doesn't know what they are looking at, they will never see it ... Just as many have not seen the direction this country has been moving for the past 50 years. It is as it should be. Do you really think the ancient Romans saw their end coming?

If this was 1980 Trump would not be POTUS. The values in the u.s. have transformed over time. Trump did not change, the u.s. did. And trust, Trump knows it.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:30 PM
 
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That is eventually what is going to happen. Someone is going to say enough is enough and then get in trouble. Maybe they can use the mental defense from being subjected to the threats and whinings of those with TDS.
I haven't read the thread yet, but the above post caught my attention.

Are you saying you think people who oppose Trump should be killed? If so, you Trumpsters have reached a new low. The MAGA hats have shrunk your brains.

But given all the anger and grievance of Trump supporters, it wouldn’t surprise me if they started killing people who disagreed with them.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:38 PM
 
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I see many things, because I am not like him ... and if a person doesn't know what they are looking at, they will never see it ... Just as many have not seen the direction this country has been moving for the past 50 years. It is as it should be. Do you really think the ancient Romans saw their end coming?

If this was 1980 Trump would not be POTUS. The values in the u.s. have transformed over time. Trump did not change, the u.s. did. And trust, Trump knows it.
If this were 1980, voters wouldn’t know their “moderate” candidate George H.W. Bush was a high profile dark occultist and globalist middle manager. If this were 1980, voters wouldn’t know that David Rockefeller’s and National Security Advisor Zbigniew Brzezinski’s Trilateral Commission stood for NAU, EU, and APU.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:54 PM
 
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The left is truly LOOONY.
The Right is much more “LOONY.” And a whole lot more dangerous!
 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:58 PM
 
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OP, You are starting to believe your litany of phony grievances, dear. Your fear mongering is making you fearful. Only one party — the GOP — has a leader who openly encourages behavior that is violent: President Trump.
The Trumpist Party IS the party of Grievance filled wannabe’s. They are soooo angry about their lot in life that they are ready to follow the orange man into the abyss.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 09:59 PM
 
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You (and many others) are confusing nationalism with Nazism. Just because you are more of a nationalist does not make you a Nazi, and if you are a Nazi does not automatically make you a nationalist. Besides it's not like Trump is a die hard nationalist. He just wants fair trade deals (some of which are with communist countries) and a secure border. I would think that the democrats, the supposed party of the working people, would be all about those things. Sadly, not today's Democrat. They seem to be more interested in bringing down America.

The world needs a strong America. Like it or not. The world is a more stable and safe place when we are strong.
I have never said Trump was a Nazi. I am also for the "Stronger America, stronger world" because no country has impacted so many countries positively. ( Except for those oil wars that is fought on behalf of oil companies/other countries) .

I was just mentioning how propaganda was used. There are lots of similarities in sending the message across to the large masses. It has worked in both cases.

But there is an interesting reason why Hitlet believed propaganda is important. He felt the whole media was against him and he needed an effective one to counter that . Its no different with Trump too, ase we see how the whole media is against him since 2016.

P.S : If I had a right to vote I will vote for him. Just that I am not his "base" who will do whatever their party says. After the first debate I pretty much knew he was winning. Because it had all the ingredients for entertainment for the lesser intellectuals.
 
Old 02-08-2020, 10:04 PM
 
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I have never said Trump was a Nazi. I am also for the "Stronger America, stronger world" because no country has impacted so many countries positively. ( Except for those oil wars that is fought on behalf of oil companies/other countries) .

I was just mentioning how propaganda was used. There are lots of similarities in sending the message across to the large masses. It has worked in both cases.

But there is an interesting reason why Hitlet believed propaganda is important. He felt the whole media was against him and he needed an effective one to counter that . Its no different with Trump too, ase we see how the whole media is against him since 2016.
Time Magazine and the New York Times celebrated Hitler. Just as they continue to do with their lefties just like him.
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