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Old 02-17-2020, 05:09 PM
 
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You don't understand the terms being used here.
You're the one who dont understand what socialism is.

Socialism is workers owning the means of production.

ALL countries have various levels of GOVERNMENT control over various sectors of the economy. Its completely normal. It doesnt make them socialist, even though you think so.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:10 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Yet Bernie Sanders describes himself as a Socialist and the rest of the Democrat candidates espouse Socialist policies or worse. I guess the OP is embarrassed of them. She should be.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:11 PM
 
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He advocates taking over production

He's a socialist that will destroy this country if he had his way.
He's advocating what every major developed country in the world has. If you think all our closest allies are socialist, and people are starving to death there, then go ahead and believe it. You're just terrified based on nothing.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:12 PM
 
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Yet Bernie Sanders describes himself as a Socialist and the rest of the Democrat candidates espouse Socialist policies or worse. I guess the OP is embarrassed of them. She should be.
He doesnt. He describes himself as a democratic socialist and refers to social democratic policies which are commonplace all over the world.

Its absurd to be so afraid about that.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:12 PM
 
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So tell us why you are afraid of universal health care, stronger labor unions, legalizing marijuana and getting big money out of politics, which is what Sanders, the dangerous socialist, advocates? He's talked about that for 30 years, and conservative parties in other western countries strong agree with him. Are you really afraid of starving if we implement policies that conservatives in other western democracies advocate for?
Pay for your own healthcare. Don’t rely on others. Unions are going the way of dinosaurs and they are the big money in politics you claim he is against. That makes him a hypocrite. And we don’t need more intoxicants legalized.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:13 PM
 
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He's advocating what every major developed country in the world has. If you think all our closest allies are socialist, and people are starving to death there, then go ahead and believe it. You're just terrified based on nothing.
Sanders is a socialist who wants to implement socialism. That is a fact.

Once you educate yourself, you'll understand this.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:28 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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Sanders is a socialist who wants to implement socialism. That is a fact.

Once you educate yourself, you'll understand this.
What the Bernie supporters don't get is that we look at career politicians like Bernie who helped to spend the nation 22 trillion into debt, and we ask ourselves can we trust them with our personal futures? Hell No

We look at guys like Bernie, the do as I say not as I do types and we ask ourselves does he really give a damn about me? Hell no

WE look at a man who couldn't manage his personal life before politics and ask, is this the person who is qualified to manage a nation? Hell NO.

Bernie supporters are in love with Bernie's promise of paradise. A paradise that someone will have to pay for, and anyone with 1 grey cell in their skull knows, it won't be paid for by the rich, because the rich are our elected reps who make the laws. It will be the middle class that foots the bill.

I am surrounded by ex-pats from Sweden, Norway and Finland. If those countries are the promised land the left claims why do they produce so many ex-pats?
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:33 PM
 
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What the Bernie supporters don't get is that we look at career politicians like Bernie who helped to spend the nation 22 trillion into debt, and we ask ourselves can we trust them with our personal futures? Hell No

We look at guys like Bernie, the do as I say not as I do types and we ask ourselves does he really give a damn about me? Hell no
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WE look at a man who couldn't manage his personal life before politics and ask, is this the person who is qualified to manage a nation? Hell NO.

Bernie supporters are in love with Bernie's promise of paradise. A paradise that someone will have to pay for, and anyone with 1 grey cell in their skull knows, it won't be paid for by the rich, because the rich are our elected reps who make the laws. It will be the middle class that foots the bill.

I am surrounded by ex-pats from Sweden, Norway and Finland. If those countries are the promised land the left claims why do they produce so many ex-pats?
Because they are tired of paying for other people’s stuff.
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Old 02-17-2020, 05:34 PM
 
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Sanders is getting a free pass mostly right now because Bloomberg is sucking up all the bad air.
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Old 02-17-2020, 06:28 PM
 
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Not at all strange.

The GOP looks ahead in time and knows that their future is limited. Upcoming generations want no part of their agenda.

Expect them to get ever more desperate and strident as they approach the abyss. Expect them to double down on science denial, trickle-down and other failed policies they hold so dear.

Strateejery ain't their strong point.

I had to go back and look if this was an old thread that was bumped from 2009.
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