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Old 02-21-2020, 08:36 AM
 
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
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Using slavery as economic employment? Lol

Black Democrats in DC are amongst the most racists group of people on earth.

Always blaming old white folks for their unfortunate situation, yet their top candidates are just that.
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:38 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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But he didn't say they were better off under slavery. See the difference?
Native Americans were fully employed while walking the trail of tears too, just saying.
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Native Americans were fully employed while walking the trail of tears too, just saying.

And don't forget, people in jail, which has the highest percentage of Blacks are fully employed also. Everybody wins!
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Old 02-21-2020, 08:41 AM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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You need to re-think you're statement.

He's just saying that everything is not as good as the numbers say.
Exactly, he's a disgusting demagogue, as are most Democrat leaders
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:06 AM
 
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I honestly don't see how any sane person thinks that Clyburn was saying African Americans were "better" as slaves from this quote:

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“I’m saying that the African-American unemployment is not the lowest it’s ever been unless you count slavery. We were fully employed during slavery. So it all depends how you measure this up,” said Clyburn.
Are you all saying that "employment" always equals "better?"

Clyburn is saying it depends on how you look at the word "employment" versus "unemployment."

There is a poster amongst us here who likes to claim and tout that UE was lower for African Americans in the 1920s versus today as "proof" that African Americans were "better" back in the 1920s. I've told said poster many times that black people back then were FORCED to work, which is why UE statistics showed high employment levels for African Americans.

It seems many of you conservative posters equate the word "employed" to be the same as "better off." For Clyburn, myself and many African Americans, being employed doesn't necessarily mean that someone is "better off" in their lives. Slaves are fully employed - are they better off? African Americans in the 1920s were forced to work as a result of disasters in the south, some even held in what we'd consider concentration camps in Mississippi. Do you consider working under threat of death to be "better" than not working but not being threatened with death or the whip?

Some of you really seem to be willfully ignorant and inclined to purposefully misunderstand things. I'm hoping you all aren't serious because if you are, you have issues.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:11 AM
 
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It really is interesting to see how mentally dense liberals are....I thought Clyburn was joking, but they apparently really believe themselves as evidenced by the responses on this thread by the libs....they just do. not. get. it.
What don't people get?

I'm not a liberal but I "got" from Clyburn's statement that everyone being employed is not better off than those who are not employed. Some people who are employed, like slaves, are forced to work and have no liberties.

You all don't "get" the fact that UE rates do not mean someone in "better off" in their lives as it depends on the work/employment conditions, how much money is being made, and other socio-political factors.

IMO you all are being very simplistic, which is one of the reasons why those of us black people who know how to think about things don't find your ideology attractive. You are very apt to be "dense" yourselves and not even listen to what someone is saying.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:14 AM
 
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If the people that owned slaves and fought with the confederate army to keep their slaves were alive today, they would be republicans.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Rural Wisconsin
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If the people that owned slaves and fought with the confederate army to keep their slaves were alive today, they would be republicans.
Another blanket and very untrue statement.

Newsflash: Not all Republicans are racists (and not all Democrats are crazy, either).
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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I honestly don't see how any sane person thinks that Clyburn was saying African Americans were "better" as slaves from this quote:



Are you all saying that "employment" always equals "better?"

Clyburn is saying it depends on how you look at the word "employment" versus "unemployment."

There is a poster amongst us here who likes to claim and tout that UE was lower for African Americans in the 1920s versus today as "proof" that African Americans were "better" back in the 1920s. I've told said poster many times that black people back then were FORCED to work, which is why UE statistics showed high employment levels for African Americans.

It seems many of you conservative posters equate the word "employed" to be the same as "better off." For Clyburn, myself and many African Americans, being employed doesn't necessarily mean that someone is "better off" in their lives. Slaves are fully employed - are they better off? African Americans in the 1920s were forced to work as a result of disasters in the south, some even held in what we'd consider concentration camps in Mississippi. Do you consider working under threat of death to be "better" than not working but not being threatened with death or the whip?

Some of you really seem to be willfully ignorant and inclined to purposefully misunderstand things. I'm hoping you all aren't serious because if you are, you have issues.
Well of course people are better off being fully employed! And Democrats - black Democrats yet - who are trying to draw a parallel between being employed and being a slave are beyond the pale.

I KNEW Democrats would get loonier following the debate - and the obvious revelation that none of the D candidates can win. That’s what happens when you get desperate.
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Old 02-21-2020, 09:40 AM
 
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The implication was nothing of the kind. I can't believe the number of people here who are either too stupid or just pretending they can't understand what this man was trying to say. It's some thing like:

"Of course you can come up with statistics to show blacks have lower unemployment. That doesn't mean they are better off. For example, I can name a time when we had full employment. We certainly weren't better off then."
So a black Democrat leader is suggesting that blacks might be better off without a job? That’s a terrible message to send. Any lawful job is better than being unemployed and supported by taxpayers.
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