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Old 03-19-2020, 01:42 PM
 
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And if there were a Democratic President in power with all of this going on all of the Trumpsters would be sitting and singing kum-ba-ya...please, you would be yelling at the top of your lungs. I mean look at Benghazi...that wasn't even real.

Here you go folks.....AMERICANS DIED....but as a true leftist says....it not even real.

 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles
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Here you go folks.....AMERICANS DIED....but as a true leftist says....it not even real.
Still hanging on to Benghazi...that's all I need to know.
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island, N.Y.
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It's in plain site...and I am not falling for your gaslighting.
Your overuse of the term gaslighting is.....gaslighting.
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:47 PM
 
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The death rate will skyrocket if we do not lock things down ala italy and china. Once the hospitals get overwhelmed I bet it could hit 5%. If we can flatten the curve and avoid that, I suspect about 1%.



Thats still millions dead if we all get it BTW.



And trying to calculate the death rate on those infected vs dead is nonsense. Try comparing the dead, to the infected a week ago. Thats your better baseline. (actually 8 days as those who die from this do it on average within 8 days of diagnosis). Otherwise you claim lower death rates based upon increased infections. So for example, when we had 541 cases on March 8th, we had 85 dead 8 days later. Which would seem to indicate a insanely high death rate.....EXCEPT...we were barely testing anyone. Still arent doing nearly enough. And that means our data is garbage.



Dropping the ball on testing by our administration is going to hurt us for a long time. Its criminally negligent that our president down played this so much early on. Theyre JUST beginning to realize how serious this can be if not contained. Better late then never I suppose.
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:48 PM
 
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Made in China and they turned all their shipments around back in January for their own needs.

Proves Trumps point that we need to produce that stuff in the US.

They have also threatened to cut off our drug supply.
I'd like to see some credible evidence of your Parscale produced propaganda pablum. In the meantime, for your reading pleasure, see how a real businessman conducts himself. Unlike the phony businessman masquerading as a leader and occupying the Oval.

Asia's richest man to ship 500,000 test kits and 1 million masks to the U.S.

Alibaba Group co-founder Jack Ma’s businesses have already sourced and donated supplies to other countries being hit by the virus, including Japan, Korea, Italy, Iran and Spain.

Now Ma is turning the other cheek and providing much-needed coronavirus-related medical supplies to the United States, even as President Trump and his minions cast blame on China: with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo calling the infectious disease “the Wuhan virus” , Trump official calling it ,"the Kung Flu", and Trump offensively and continually calling it the China Virus. All of this despite the WHO repeatedly requesting that Trump call it by its correct name, COVID19.

Nevertheless, Ma is providing millions of dollars in material assistance and at the same time showing the world he is above the pettiness and snide political talk of Trump and Pompeo and the Trump WH and the Trump campaign.

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“The crisis presents a huge challenge to all humankind in a globalized world. The pandemic we face today can no longer be resolved by any individual country,” Ma said in the statement. “Rather, we need to combat the virus by working hand-in-hand. At this moment, we can’t beat this virus unless we eliminate boundaries to resources and share our know-how and hard-earned lessons.”
https://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2020...s-jack-ma.html
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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this paper says there have been clinical trials in china.

"A number of subsequent clinical trials (ChiCTR2000029939, C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 9 3 5 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 8 9 9 ,
C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 8 9 8 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 8 6 8 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 8 3 7 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 8 2 6 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 8 0 3 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 7 6 2 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 7 6 1 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 7 6 0 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 7 4 0 , C h i C T R 2 0 0 0 0 2 9 6 0 9 , ChiCTR2000029559, and ChiCTR2000029542) have been quickly conducted in China to test the efficacy and safety of chloroquine or hydroxychloroquine in the treatment of COVID-19 associated pneumonia in more than 10 hospitals in Wuhan, Jingzhou, Guangzhou, Beijing, Shanghai, Chongqing, and Ningbo (5). Thus far, results from more than 100 patients have demonstrated that chloroquine phosphate is superior to the control treatment in inhibiting the exacerbation of pneumonia, improving lung imaging findings, promoting a virusnegative conversion, and shortening the disease course according to the news briefing."

https://www.jstage.jst.go.jp/article.../_pdf/-char/en
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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It seems likely that we could produce better masks ourselves than wrapping bandannas and scarves around the faces of our medical people. Put together some videos on materials and construction techniques for masks and tell the people get to work. We will have 200 million of them by this time tomorrow.
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:51 PM
 
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If it is falling then enough people are taking precautions, changing their careless habits, and that's a good thing.
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Automakers are closing factories at least to clean. Ford and Nissan are offering six months of payments. Ford, Fiat and GM are looking to help make ventilators too.
They closed because most people are not out there right now buying new cars.

Way too much economic uncertainty for most people to feel comfortable committing $35,000 to a new car. Hundreds of thousands have found themselves suddenly unemployed and are filing for unemployment benefits. They no longer qualify for a loan for anything.

Many of the newly unemployed will be denied Unemployment Benefits dependent on their employment history and state laws. And those who work as independent contractors don’t get paid if they don’t work. That’s roughly, 1/10th of the workforce.
 
Old 03-19-2020, 01:58 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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Actually this is getting attention...it showed up on Medscape yesterday. If anything they can prescribe it if people request it.

https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/927033
You get a script in prep for your safari trip / mission to Africa.
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