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He went from saying it was a hoax by the Democrats, to a full blown national emergency. I guess he finally listened to his advisors for once. He went about 2 months playing the virus down, blaming others, thats what he does. We could of been more prepared had he handled it more properly. Not thinking of himself.
More misinformation. He never called the virus a hoax and explicitly clarified that the next day. He called the Dems politicization of the outbreak and their attacks on him as their "new hoax". Phony criticism, as you are doing now. By all measures, Trump has acted 10x faster than any of the Dems would have. At the time Trump declared a "national health emergency" and a China travel ban on Jan 31, Dems were focused on the impeachment trial and called it xenophobia and accused him of strating a panic.
Grocery and retail stores are having their best sales in decades. And if people don't spend money on going to movies or eating out or travelling or at ball games, they'll spend that money on something else. Maybe a new TV or a new washing machine. Or a living room sofa. Some businesses will take a beating. Theaters. Restaurants. I'll still go to the local eateries but not at buffets. And companies that manufacture paper products and cleaning products, they're in heaven. Drug manufacturers. Food companies. It's a bonanza.
Speculation of this pandemic hasn't gotten as abstract and conjectural as with global warming, we can actually see this and its real. But we don't know whats going to happen, especially economically.
At the end of the year, I'd bet that grocery sales for this year will be about the same as last year. All the panic buying now will just mean reduced buying later, because except for maybe washing hands and leaning surfaces more often, actual consumption hasn't changed. People aren't actually eating more or using more TP.
Some of the money not being spent now may be spent on other things but I think a lot of people will "hoard" their money as they are with groceries, fearing upcoming layoffs. If the virus outbreak clears up quickly there may be some pent up demand to attend events but there may also be some residual lasting concern in many about being in large crowds.
There has been a lot of criticism of the newer generations over how they are not as sociable as previous generations, and I expect our society to now become a bit more "socially distant". More people will shop online, even more than was already happening. More will order groceries for curbside pickup or home delivery.
More misinformation. He never called the virus a hoax and explicitly clarified that the next day. He called the Dems politicization of the outbreak and their attacks on him as their "new hoax". Phony criticism, as you are doing now.
Turns out their response to the virus wasn't a hoax, huh? It is going to be every bit as bad as the media has been telling us. How do you reconcile that?
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By all measures, Trump has acted 10x faster than any of the Dems would have. At the time Trump declared a "national health emergency" and a China travel ban on Jan 31, Dems were focused on the impeachment trial and called it xenophobia and accused him of strating a panic.
Now you're making things up. I can think of no other president, Republican or Democrat, who would have deliberately slowed down testing to make themselves look better, the American people be damned. And no, he did not declare a national emergency on Jan 31, he did it two days ago.
More misinformation. He never called the virus a hoax and explicitly clarified that the next day. He called the Dems politicization of the outbreak and their attacks on him as their "new hoax". Phony criticism, as you are doing now. By all measures, Trump has acted 10x faster than any of the Dems would have. At the time Trump declared a "national health emergency" and a China travel ban on Jan 31, Dems were focused on the impeachment trial and called it xenophobia and accused him of strating a panic.
Trump's response has been worse than pathetic and he has actively made the situation worse by disbanding the team specifically designed for this exact problem, downplaying the severity of the problem for months, and delaying testing because he was more worried about optics than peoples lives.
We would be in a better situation today if he had literally done nothing and let the existing government apparatus do it's job.
It doesn't matter if he called the virus a hoax or the response a hoax 'cause BOTH ARE LIES.
Funny how Trump and his supporters pumped the economy and the stock market. Now the entire thing is crashing overnight. It's easy to juice the economy on sugar highs of some tax cuts and rate cuts, but look at what happens when the temporary high ends. The crash is hard. Companies thought the economy could only go up and up and up and fueled their spending with record amounts of corporate debt due to very low interest rates. Uh oh, now they're all screwed by both huge supply shocks and demand shocks. Their balance sheets are going to explode with debt that they won't be able to pay, which mean jobs losses are coming.
So what exactly does Trump have to show for 4 years of 'brilliant' work? He's blown up the deficit by giving out tax cuts when they weren't needed. The deficf will now get even worse because he wants even more tax cuts now that's economy is tanking, and deficits will get worse due to decreased tax receipts. He's mired in a never ending trade war he doesn't know how to get out of. He has made the US a laughing stock by pulling out of the Iran, Paris, and Asian deals. He's completely bungled the pandemic response, and the US still doesn't have good testing even though a country like South Korea could do it.
The only thing Trump creates is chaos. His luck has finally run out and he will no.longer be able to campaign on a platform of a good economy. Worst president ever.
Turns out their response to the virus wasn't a hoax, huh? It is going to be every bit as bad as the media has been telling us. How do you reconcile that?
Now you're making things up. I can think of no other president, Republican or Democrat, who would have deliberately slowed down testing to make themselves look better, the American people be damned. And no, he did not declare a national emergency on Jan 31, he did it two days ago.
Stop lying.
You're the one outright lying. No one deliberately slowed down testing. You would be sent to prison for such a lie in places like China.
He declared a "national health emergency" on Jan 31. If you don't know the difference between "national health emergency" (the precise phrase I used) and a "national emergency" then maybe you should stay out of the discussion.
Trump's response has been worse than pathetic and he has actively made the situation worse by disbanding the team specifically designed for this exact problem, downplaying the severity of the problem for months, and delaying testing because he was more worried about optics than peoples lives.
Trump's response has been with unprecedented speed and scale.
I don't understand the criticism of Trump on this.
It was a hoax. In that, everyone agrees that the press is overblowing everything about this. There needs to be consequences for them. IMHO it is they that have tanked the stock market. Everything appears to be a disaster because the press keeps leading every story with it.
When faced with 1000 cases in the USA he acted swiftly. Within a week he has declared an emergency, closed the boarders, etc. He has to balance the needs of the economy against the potential of a health issue. He can't just declare an emergency because we have a few cases.
Turns out, the tests that we had were inaccurate. That was the delay.
I suspect this virus has been here for much longer than China said they had it. Trump probably knows that too and knows about 25% of the population has it.
I suspect this week he will put a medical lockdown into effect. Right now he has to wait for employers to get ready and he has to try to keep the public from panic. Panic would be a zillion times worse than the virus.
This is no different than any outbreak. The biggest difference I notice is how fast it spread and Trump claiming it is a hoax. It isn't and had he been an actual leader and lead, we could have worked much faster and better rather than this late response that is shutting the nation down for weeks if not months and an economic recession eminent.
This is no different than any outbreak. The biggest difference I notice is how fast it spread and Trump claiming it is a hoax. It isn't and had he been an actual leader and lead, we could have worked much faster and better rather than this late response that is shutting the nation down for weeks if not months and an economic recession eminent.
Is it ignorance, lack of reading comprehension, or dishonesty? Trump never called the virus a hoax and even the liberal Snopes says that is False. He called the inaccurate Dem criticism of his response their new hoax.
Name a country that banned travel from China before the US?
Name a country that banned travel from Europe before the US?
Name a President that has ever declared a "national emergency" with fewer confirmed cases and known deaths than Trump.
Name a President that ever shut everything down with fewer confirmed cases and known deaths than Trump.
Coronavirus is airborne. Washing hands is not and never was going to contain it. Shutting everything down for weeks and maybe months was always going to be the only recourse.
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