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Old 03-12-2020, 04:09 PM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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This is way worse than swine flu. The information is out there if you'd like to avail yourself of it.
12,000 Americans died from H1N1. 34 (?) have died from Coronavirus. Care to explain how "this is way worse than swine flu" to those that can do math?

 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:10 PM
 
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Lets get some facts in comparing the swine flu to covid-19.


R0. This is critical, on average someone with the swine flu gave it to between 1.4 to 1.6 people. So in 20 rounds lets use the average R0 of 1.5. 1 person 20 rounds later is....3,352. Now keep in mind this infected tens of millions.


How about this coronovirus? Somewhere between 2-3. Lets use 2.5 as our average. 20 rounds later thats....approx 91 million infected. Yeah. Its THAT much more contagious.


So then fatality rates. 0.02% for H1N1. 2% for coronovirus. and that 2% is assuming our hospitals are not overwhelmed-which is a HUGE assumption. Just using that figure however tells you the story-this will kill millions if not stopped or contained. and so far our response to this in the US will not in any way contain this.


So why no outrage over H1N1? Because compared to the current problem it was nothing more then a flu. This is nothing like it.
R0 for common seasonal flu is about 3.6. Covid-19 is 2.

Covid 19s real danger is not its transmittability but the high mortality seen in the elderly. No humans have immunity against it.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:15 PM
 
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12,000 Americans died from H1N1. 34 (?) have died from Coronavirus. Care to explain how "this is way worse than swine flu" to those that can do math?
While Im on your side in this thread, keep in mind its not the overall deaths its the mortality rate.
Its 34 out of what, 800? 1200?
The 12,000 was out of millions.

Its like comparing deaths on russian highways vs the US. We have more deaths yet theirs are far more dangerous. They have far less passenger miles travelled.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake View Post
12,000 Americans died from H1N1. 34 (?) have died from Coronavirus. Care to explain how "this is way worse than swine flu" to those that can do math?
Are you really this ignorant or are you just playing at it? That information has been all over this site for days.


Go look up the words exponential growth. See if you are capable of understanding what it means since you're so good at math. Also look up mortality rates between the flu and the coronavirus. It won't be hard to find because it is literally everywhere.

Good grief.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:21 PM
 
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R0 for common seasonal flu is about 3.6. Covid-19 is 2.

Covid 19s real danger is not its transmittability but the high mortality seen in the elderly. No humans have immunity against it.
You're factually wrong. The flu is nowhere near 3.6. Feel free to try and back up your assertion though.

https://journals.lww.com/imd/Fulltex..._During.4.aspx

https://www.nationalreview.com/the-m...-than-the-flu/

Both discuss the R0, and place it at roughly 1.5 for one of the worst flu seasons. and I have no idea where you pulled the R0 of 2 for coronovirus. Probably the same place you got the R0 for the flu I imagine.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Oh look, yet another new thread pushing more denialist propaganda.
They seem factual to me thus far. Just numbers of illnesses and deaths.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Colorado Springs
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12,000 Americans died from H1N1. 34 (?) have died from Coronavirus. Care to explain how "this is way worse than swine flu" to those that can do math?
18 months of H1N1 vs 7 weeks of Covid-19 would be my first indicator. The US is just stepping into the Covid-19 arena. When was our first case, January 20. So 34 deaths in seven weeks on something that is just starting to ramp up sounds like something to be concerned about.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:24 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Obama ,clapped his hands together and stopped Swine Flu. He also raised the seas and taught the birds to sing.
And Trump clapped his hands, and created Coronavirus, and spread it across the Globe, and then lied about it.

Both are God-like figures.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:25 PM
 
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18 months of H1N1 vs 7 weeks of Covid-19 would be my first indicator. The US is just stepping into the Covid-19 arena. When was our first case, January 20. So 34 deaths in seven weeks on something that is just starting to ramp up sounds like something to be concerned about.
39 deaths currently.
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/corona...ry?id=69551458

1,323 known infected.

We're about 7 days behind italy, which is currently at over 1,000 dead...and growing.
 
Old 03-12-2020, 04:26 PM
 
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We’re not even over the hill with this one. Wait til after to start making comparisons...
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