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Old 04-10-2020, 08:55 AM
 
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CDC advisory, dosing, and side effects for hydroxychloroquine

https://www.cdc.gov/malaria/resource...hloroquine.pdf
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Old 04-10-2020, 08:59 AM
 
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The drug may have some promise.

As a non-physician Trump should shut his piehole about what medications people should take.

No drug is right for everyone.
It has brought some people back from the brink of death. That's all I'd have to know if I was wheezing and it was getting more laborious by the minute to breathe.
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Old 04-10-2020, 08:59 AM
 
Location: SoCal
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The drug may have some promise.

As a non-physician Trump should shut his piehole about what medications people should take.

No drug is right for everyone.
So should you. He is not a doctor, why take advice from a business man.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:01 AM
 
Location: Florida
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"Lots of people are saying."

There was one survey that a conservative rag jumped all over. The headline was "Nearly half of doctors think that hydroxychloroquine is the most effective medication against Covid19!"

When you looked at the poll, though, the options available to choose as the "most likely effective medication" were hydroxychloroquine, nothing, cough syrup, elderberry syrup, etc. So basically, many doctors think it could be more effective than nothing. Maybe.

Let's give the researchers time to work and figure it out. It doesn't have to be a partisan urination match. In fact, it shouldn't be partisan at all. We don't need rah-rah cheerleaders saying that some random medication that Trump was able to say is the panacea to all the troubles in the world, and we don't need people saying that it couldn't possibly work because Trump said it might.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:08 AM
 
Location: Eastern N.C.
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I saw my PCP this week (routine bloodwork). He is a supporter of the drug use, has and would continue to prescribe it where beneficial.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:15 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/09/h...pgtype=Article

Does that include Podiatrists?

This is the Point Man on ALL US Drug Trials:

"Dr. Kalil, an intensive care specialist, is a principal investigator in an unusual federal trial that may shape the course of the coronavirus pandemic."

"Today, hope centers on chloroquine and hydroxychloroquine. These drugs have been tested in the laboratory against many viruses: SARS and MERS — both coronaviruses — as well as H.I.V., dengue, Ebola, chikungunya and influenza. But even when they seemed to work, what succeeded in the test tube did not succeed in real life, Dr. Kalil said.

In fact, the anti-malarial drugs have never been found to work against any viral disease, including Ebola. (Malaria is caused by a parasite, not a virus.) And the drugs have side effects, including damage to the liver and bone marrow, as well as heart rhythm disturbances that could be fatal in older people and young people with serious medical problems."

I would never give this or any other experimental drug off-label to my patients,” Dr. Kalil said. “There is nothing compassionate about compassionate use. You are treating emotion.”

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Please don't be stupid. Don't kill people or cause them to be killed. Don't push miracles because a Barker wants you to. Please accept real science, not from "a survey of doctors" (who know NOTHING about this), but from top virologists and infectious disease specialists AFTER trials have been done.
So apparently he wouldn't prescribe hydroxychloroquine for patients with rheumatoid arthritis or lupus-both of which are off-label. This in spite of the fact that it's a commonly used treatment-and one of the excuses for criticizing its use for Covid is that it creates a shortage for those patients... A drug has been extensively used and heavily prescribed for 75 years and side effects are well known. Sounds more like a typical bureaucrat than a doctor. Good little government drone.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:20 AM
 
Location: NJ
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The drug may have some promise.

As a non-physician Trump should shut his piehole about what medications people should take.

No drug is right for everyone.
that isnt really a rational attitude. people are expecting him to say things, im sure if he didnt you would complain about that also.

i dont listen to a word trump says, i dont remember hearing anything since he announced that he is running for president. but other people expect to hear him and so it makes sense for him to say things about promising treatments.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:20 AM
 
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with 67 percent saying they would take the drug themselves....but according to the fake news media Trump is nothing more than a snake oil salesman promoting a useless drug.

I swear and I’m not exaggerating when I say this “ that liberals in general have such hatred for this man that they would rather see their fellow citizens “die”...if somehow they could use it as a political weapon against Trump..

They’re sick and twisted!


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/mattve...ilies-n2566582
LOL -- because that's the scientific study you would choose to decide the effectiveness of a med.

Trump didn't invent or discover the drug. He mentioned it in a press conference. It was being studied and data gathered to see the real impact not the perceived or hoped for outcome.

If scientific research deems the drug beneficial -- it isn't because of Trump. It was already being researched around the world.

You get that right?

The criticism of Trump is his putting too much faith in this one drug. Once again myopic approach to the problem. It is a false sense of hope and security because there is still no scientific evidence to prove his feelings.

Remember Trump had us all going to church on Easter Sunday. We need to take EVERYTHING HE says with a grain of salt..
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:22 AM
 
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that isnt really a rational attitude. people are expecting him to say things, im sure if he didnt you would complain about that also.

i dont listen to a word trump says, i dont remember hearing anything since he announced that he is running for president. but other people expect to hear him and so it makes sense for him to say things about promising treatments.
Nobody is looking to any world leader right now to give advice on medicine, science, etc.

They are there to assure us the federal government is helping the medical communities, our states/cities/towns to manage the crisis.

That's all.

Same when there is a hurricane --- don't need a world leader to pretend he knows about weather......none at all.
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Old 04-10-2020, 09:25 AM
 
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The criticism of Trump is his putting too much faith in this one drug. Once again myopic approach to the problem. It is a false sense of hope and security because there is still no scientific evidence to prove his feelings.
Well it seems a majority of doctors don’t agree with you...anyways keep .praying for people to die so you can pin it on Trump..
“Sick”
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