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Old 03-24-2020, 10:25 AM
 
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Bill O'Reilly is an idiot. The impeachment vote was taken on the 18th of December.

We need a president who is capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. Trump obviously isn't. Don't try to excuse this sorry excuse for a president right now by blaming this on the impeachment. What was he doing from December 18th through mid-March? Yep, denying this was a problem. He owns this now.

BTW, the Bush Administration was warned about an impending attack months before 911. They, like Trump, ignored the warnings.
I don’t care for O’Really but we desperately need a vaccine for TDS. It’s destroying minds.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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So February and more than half of March? What then? Was he too butthurt to do his job?
Just admit you were off (lied !) in trying to claim impeachment was over in December and move on...
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:29 AM
 
Location: New Jersey and hating it
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The Russian hoax and impeachment sham by the Democrats wasted tremendous amount of public resources and for what? That alone was a huge crime.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:30 AM
 
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Just admit you were off (lied !) in trying to claim impeachment was over in December and move on...
I said the vote to impeach was held in December. And it was. And yes, it didn't get voted on in the Senate until January. That is correct.

Now you admit that you have no defense for the president taking absolutely no action for weeks, long after the entire impeachment process was over and done.

You won't.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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Bill O'Reilly is an idiot. The impeachment vote was taken on the 18th of December.

We need a president who is capable of walking and chewing gum at the same time. Trump obviously isn't. Don't try to excuse this sorry excuse for a president right now by blaming this on the impeachment. What was he doing from December 18th through mid-March? Yep, denying this was a problem. He owns this now.

BTW, the Bush Administration was warned about an impending attack months before 911. They, like Trump, ignored the warnings.
And even before that (Bush Admin warnings) Bill Clinton had the opportunity to take Usama Bin Laden out, and took a pass instead. Clinton was to blame for 911, not Bush.

This is common knowlege, sorry you missed it.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:33 AM
 
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I said the vote to impeach was held in December. And it was. And yes, it didn't get voted on in the Senate until January. That is correct.

Now you admit that you have no defense for the president taking absolutely no action for weeks, long after the entire impeachment process was over and done.

You won't.
Your intent was to claim that Trump did nothing since the 18th of December since impeachment was over, and it wasn't

You lied... or you were wrong.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:35 AM
 
Location: DFW
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Trump was acquitted in the Senate on February 5th. He had more than 30 days to start taking the necessary preparation actions. He however was continually dismissive of the threat and took little action other than his always standard favorite act of restricting entry into the nation. He did very little to prepare the nation for the time after the virus inevitably made its presence in this nation.
Not true. He shut down the flights from China and formed his task force around Jan 30- Feb 1.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:36 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Trump was acquitted in the Senate on February 5th. He had more than 30 days to start taking the necessary preparation actions. He however was continually dismissive of the threat and took little action other than his always standard favorite act of restricting entry into the nation. He did very little to prepare the nation for the time after the virus inevitably made its presence in this nation.


Trump started the travel restrictions in late January...and all the liberals could do was scream racism, which is their stock answer for everything
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:39 AM
 
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Your intent was to claim that Trump did nothing since the 18th of December since impeachment was over, and it wasn't

You lied... or you were wrong.
Or both.
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Old 03-24-2020, 10:40 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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BTW, the Bush Administration was warned about an impending attack months before 911. They, like Trump, ignored the warnings.
the bush admin was NOT warned with any significance...


sorry but "a rouge group may want to attach the USA, but we don't know where, when or how"




Clinton did NOT warn Bush


1. 9/11 was planned well before the election of 2000, banking on a gore win


2. there was no warnings, at least none that were specific

Clinton gave nearly NOTHING on ALQ to bush, but what bush got he acted on


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August 2002 Richard A. Clarke, former chief counter-terrorism adviser, discusses US strategy in dealing with islamic terrorists:

RICHARD CLARKE: Actually, I've got about seven points, let me just go through them quickly. Um, the first point, I think the overall point is, there was no plan on Al Qaeda that was passed from the Clinton administration to the Bush administration.

Second point is that the Clinton administration had a strategy in place, effectively dating from 1998. And there were a number of issues on the table since 1998. And they remained on the table when that administration went out of office -- issues like aiding the Northern Alliance in Afghanistan, changing our Pakistan policy -- uh, changing our policy toward Uzbekistan. And in January 2001, the incoming Bush administration was briefed on the existing strategy. They were also briefed on these series of issues that had not been decided on in a couple of years.

And the third point is the Bush administration decided then, you know, in late January, to do two things. One, vigorously pursue the existing policy, including all of the lethal covert action findings, which we've now made public to some extent.

And the point is, while this big review was going on, there were still in effect, the lethal findings were still in effect. The second thing the (Bush) administration decided to do is to initiate a process to look at those issues which had been on the table for a couple of years and get them decided.

So, point five, that process which was initiated in the first week in February, uh, decided in principle, uh in the spring to add to the existing Clinton strategy and to increase CIA resources, for example, for covert action, five-fold, to go after Al Qaeda.

The sixth point, the newly-appointed deputies -- and you had to remember, the deputies didn't get into office until late March, early April. The deputies then tasked the development of the implementation details, uh, of these new decisions that they were endorsing, and sending out to the principals.

Over the course of the summer -- last point -- they developed implementation details, the principals met at the end of the summer, approved them in their first meeting, changed the strategy by authorizing the increase in funding five-fold, changing the policy on Pakistan, changing the policy on Uzbekistan, changing the policy on the Northern Alliance assistance.

And then changed the strategy from one of rollback with Al Qaeda over the course of five years, which it had been, to a new strategy that called for the rapid elimination of Al Qaeda. That is in fact the timeline.

QUESTION: What is your response to the suggestion in the [Aug 12, 2002] Time [magazine] article that the Bush administration was unwilling to take on board the suggestions made in the Clinton administration because of animus against the -- general animus against the foreign policy?

CLARKE: I think if there was a general animus that clouded their vision, they might not have kept the same guy dealing with terrorism issue. This is the one issue where the National Security Council leadership decided continuity was important and kept the same guy around, the same team in place. That doesn't sound like animus against, uh, the previous team to me.

JIM ANGLE: You're saying that the Bush administration did not stop anything that the Clinton administration was doing while it was making these decisions, and by the end of the summer had increased money for covert action five-fold. Is that correct?

CLARKE: All of that's correct.

ANGLE: So, just to finish up if we could then, so what you're saying is that there was no -- one, there was no plan; two, there was no delay; and that actually the first changes since October of '98 were made in the spring months just after the administration came into office?

CLARKE: You got it. That's right.

Richard A. Clarke
Former chief counter-terrorism adviser
August, 2002
yes bush took his eye off the ball in Afghanistan to pursue the next target Iraq... a mistake...should have finished in afghan before going on to the next terrorist training country....... btw alq,isis,poco, ET.AL are in over 23 countries







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