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Staten Island. Public transportation into Manhattan by rail and ferry and walking or subway, or Express Bus, or local bus across the Verrazano and subway from Brooklyn into Manhattan. Apartments and attached homes are less than a third of what they cost in Manhattan, and much less than in the other boroughs. This has been the case for decades. Most of the island is safe, clean, middle class neighborhoods. 60-75 minute commute on public transportation during which you can read or sleep. Public beaches, boardwalks and marinas, local restaurants, malls, parks. This is how close to a half a million Staten Islanders live. Most have cars but don't use them for commuting.
If you can stretch the commute to 75-90 minutes there are tons of single family homes in Howell NJ in nice neighborhoods for less than $300K with property taxes in the $5 to 6K range. Safe quiet clean middle class neighborhoods. Good public schools. You can drive a couple of miles to a park and ride and take an Express bus into Manhattan.
It takes a native New Yorker to know that most people aren't rich here and live just fine. They know where they can live reasonably and where you can get a great slice of pizza with all the toppings that is actually a meal and a drink in Manhattan for less than $5, and where to go for reasonably priced Greek or Chinese food. They take public transportation and live in NYC because that is where the decent paying jobs are.
You seem to think people in NYC can only live in high priced places or slums. But NYC has 8 million people and the vast majority don't live in either extreme, and the median family income in NYC is $57K, so more than 4 million people live in households that make less than that.
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Where is there a safe place to live that is an within an hour to NYC that is much cheaper than NYC? It doesn't exist. The reality is that this bill (along with all other bills) should consider COL. Welfare bills already do. It's not rocket science. Otherwise, it's just a redistribution of wealth.
Some people are going to lose their jobs, and they can file for unemployment.
Not all of them can. The self-employed, a growing segment of the labor force due to 1099 independent contractor workers who are considered to be self-employed and small business owners who are especially vulnerable in the COVID-19 forced closures don't qualify for unemployment.
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When things return to normal, companies will re-hire.
Not the companies that have less demand for their products/services.
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This is a temporary thing, and a minor thing, but the money they are talking about ($6 trillion) should be reserved for fundamental and catastrophic economic failure, and even then it would be better to start from a solid foundation rather then building on government hand-outs.
I disagree that the results of this is temporary. This is a paradigm shift regarding what services/products are in demand and how services/products are delivered to consumers. We were already shifting in a different direction when B&M and Mom and Pop stores couldn't compete with and succumbed to online retailers, and this will push the change even faster.
Staten Island. Public transportation into Manhattan. Apartments and attached homes are less than a third of what they cost in Manhattan, and much less than in the other boroughs. This has been the case for decades. Most of the island is safe, clean, middle class neighborhoods. 60-75 minute commute on public transportation during which you can read or sleep.
Fair enough, but that doesn't really demonstrate the point in discussion. Scranton, PA has a must lower income and COL than Staten Island.
Now the senate bill needs a rewrite due to errors in the coronavirus bill. ugh. it may not be passed today, but the senate's error and possible delay in passing it to the house today are moot if the House refuses to pass it because pelosi deems it dead on arrival anyway.
these politicians have one job. one. to negotiate with each other and reach a consensus. they are inept. if they were employed in the private sector they would be laid off quickly for being incapable of doing their jobs.
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But you won’t support this NEXT TIME!! Right? Lol
Of course I would support it the next time. The next time the government mandates a privately owned business to close through no fault of the owner - yes I'd support it.
Now the senate bill needs a rewrite due to errors in the coronavirus bill. ugh. it may not be passed today, but the senate's error and resulting delay in passing it to the house is moot if the House refuses to pass it because pelosi deems it dead on arrival anyway.
these politicians have one job. one. to negotiate with each other and reach a consensus. they are inept. if they were employed in the private sector they would be laid off quickly for being incapable of doing their jobs.
Congressmen need to be under "right to work laws"........
That's fine if you want to live and work in Scranton. If you want Manhattan an hour or so away for work and play, Staten Island makes it affordable. But if the salaries and job opportunities in Scranton are lower, how are you any better off? Manhattan has the best paying jobs with the greatest career opportunities. That's why people live and work in NYC. Most take their nest egg and retire elsewhere.
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Fair enough, but that doesn't really demonstrate the point in discussion. Scranton, PA has a must lower income and COL than Staten Island.
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