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Old 03-26-2020, 06:58 PM
 
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:20 PM
 
Location: Decatur, GA
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So at what point can those of us that were urging rationality begin to say "I told you so!"
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:23 PM
 
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So at what point can those of us that were urging rationality begin to say "I told you so!"
Who wasn't being rational? If everyone had just gone about their business where might we be now? That's the whole thing about precautions, when they work, people can say "what was the big deal?
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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I had an associate try to "school" us that 2.2 million people were likely to die in the US from this virus and

I didn't need to see the model to know that was BS. Its nonsensical to argue for such figures when actual cases on the ground don't indicate such high totals.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Who wasn't being rational? If everyone had just gone about their business where might we be now? That's the whole thing about precautions, when they work, people can say "what was the big deal?
I think precautions do matter and likely have helped, but these models put out such outrageous numbers even in the face of the precautions.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:26 PM
 
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I think precautions do matter and likely have helped, but these models put out such outrageous numbers even in the face of the precautions.
I never thought those numbers were accurate. You could have very ugly situations in urban areas like you have in NYC, but you'd never see this spread in that manner into rural areas. You'd basically have to take tens of millions of people out of the equation for it to be accurate.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:27 PM
 
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I had an associate try to "school" us that 2.2 million people were likely to die in the US from this virus and

I didn't need to see the model to know that was BS. Its nonsensical to argue for such figures when actual cases on the ground don't indicate such high totals.
Cases on the ground? What do you mean?

The guy who made the 2.2 million report has not changed his assessment at all. That is the number with no action taken.

So if harsh measures are implemented and much fewer people die, it is proof that the measures are not needed?
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:28 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Who wasn't being rational? If everyone had just gone about their business where might we be now? That's the whole thing about precautions, when they work, people can say "what was the big deal?
^^^^ Exactly this. Success is when the goal is successful, the goal being minimizing the loss of life. If the country waited until there were 20,000 deaths from COVID-19 then it would have spread way too thoroughly to startc controlling at that point.
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:28 PM
 
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Who wasn't being rational? If everyone had just gone about their business where might we be now? That's the whole thing about precautions, when they work, people can say "what was the big deal?
It's funny when people don't see it go as bad as projected because action was taken and wonder why things didn't go as bad as projected.

Besides that WE ARE STILL AT THE BEGINNING... People are counting their eggs before they hatch...
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Old 03-26-2020, 07:29 PM
 
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Makes no sense. The report itself states if no actions were taken. Since actions were taken, obviously it will mitigate the numbers. The whole point of taking actions was not to hit high numbers, reduce and maybe event prevent the spread of the virus.

As of now though, it is still skyrocketing upwards...
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