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Old 03-27-2020, 03:36 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Angry-Koala View Post
Shhhh. Don't let the voters know that Bernie is right.
He is not right on many things, but universal healthcare is an exception. Honestly, in the USA, I thought Buttigieg's proposal would work, made sense, and would be acceptable to the vast majority of citizens.

 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:38 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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You cannot legally be denied emergency medical care in the U.S.
Please research prior to posting anymore incorrect info. Thanks. Even for those that have no insurance or money, you cannot be denied medical care. You will be billed for that medical care.
At Medicare Accepting Hospitals per the Emergency Treatment and Labor Act.

Most Urgent Care facilities are free standing facilities, not hospitals.

100,000+/- people in the US have tested positive for this virus as of today. Most are not hospitalized and instead told to isolate at home.

Per the OP’s link, the kid was young, healthy and socializing with friends ( despite testing positive? )
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:38 PM
 
Location: AZ
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I never said there was public offerings. YOU are the only one who brought it up. I mentioned ONLY private health care.
You said “just like in the US” in response to my post about Canada having public and private healthcare.

You’re confused.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:38 PM
 
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what you and many like you fail to realize that in many ways it is. If your economy falls apart far more lives will be lost in the chaos that follows then will ever be lost from this virus.
Yeah, that didn't really happen during the great depression. It's amazing how quickly GOP and Trump turned to socialist ways (that is what a stimulus is after all), as soon as it aligned with their election chances. Just amazing.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:39 PM
 
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You said “just like in the US” in response to my post about Canada having public and private healthcare.

You’re confused.
I think we both know what the other one was saying now, even if we didn't at the beginning. Have a good day.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:39 PM
 
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I am agnostic, thank you very much. But, truthfully, I am pushing more toward being an atheist.


Be clear, Americans will die of Covid-19 because illegals will swam to our hospitals to usurp our medical care and medical equipment, just like they did pre-Covid-19.


Were it up to me, the illegals would be allow to die to save our Americans.


I hope I'm clear on my position, now.
Yes, it is clear that you value some human lives over others.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:40 PM
 
Location: AZ
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I think we both know what the other one was saying now, even if we didn't at the beginning. Have a good day.
Cheers.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Cali
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https://gizmodo.com/teen-who-died-of...use-1842520539

As a Canadian, I just can't see how or why this is even possible. It is immoral, it is unethical, it is unthinking that someone who needs critical care is denied because... of insurance!!!!

The urgent care facility refused to see him, referring him instead to another hospital. Why are there still some Americans who are not absolutely outraged at this? Why are there so many who don't see healthcare as a HUMAN right, especially critical and urgent care?

I'm sure there are some here who are perfectly OK with the system that allows this. I will never understand you and your excuses.
I see better death:infection ratio in the US than in countries with socialized healthcare like Spain and Italy.

Besides, correctly me on this but isn’t most urgent care in the US are privately run?

Hospital ER cannot deny a patient for urgent care due to Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act. It’s a federal law.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:41 PM
 
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Yes, it is clear that you value some human lives over others.
Yes, I absolutely do.
 
Old 03-27-2020, 03:42 PM
 
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Urgent care facilities are usually small walk in clinics for convenience with extended hours (evenings and weekends) as opposed to hospitals .which are often behemoths and open 24/7.
Urgent care facilities are not walk-in clinics. They certainly don't advertise themselves that way; they advertise that they are for urgent needs. And do much, much advertising, under the same names as the hospitals they are associated with. The confusion, if there is one, is caused by them. Not the victims.
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