why all the constant, vague, demonizations of anything that people perceive as being on the "left?" (Iraq, generations)
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Hmm I wonder how many of those hard core republican's are going to take their stimulus check from the government? They cash their social security checks every month as well don't they. You can't go on and on about socialism being bad and turn around and participate in it 100%. So how do you rationalize it and still make socialism a bad thing?
Well probably the same way Trump supporters rationalize that Trump is doing a good job with this pandemic nightmare that puts us on the same level as a third world country in our response. Maybe even worse because the response was so inept, too little too late, and based on lies. But But Pelosi stalled the relief bill with extras. But But Obama. Sheeple verbally vomit rhetoric like a trained seal. There's plenty of deflection and alternative facts. If you disagree, they're taught that you are the enemy. It defies logic but that mind set follows no matter what. People twist into pretzels to believe what they want to believe.
Your long term goal is the destruction of Earth? Okay you lost me there.
I was watching "Charlie Says" about the mind control Manson had on these weak minded girls, even after they were in prison for three years. I can't understand that mentality but it exists with Trump supporters, and far left Democrats as well. It's bizarre. Both sides spoon feed you hate for the other, and it works. I guess we are by nature herd animals. Some are just easier to manipulate.
I see far more bashing of people on the right than the left. I'm not sure what media sources or outlets the OP is watching/reading but pretty much everything/everyone but FOX slams anyone remotely right of center.
I think all of the labeling is kind of silly really. The OP was making a point that he/she is more of an "issues" person and doesn't like getting lumped in with the "left" or at least questions why. It's human nature to categorize and make distinctions, for the most part. It's an easy way of structuring things or whatever it happens to be. It's probably a bit lazy, people don't want to scratch the surface, I guess.
I take political tests and generally score center slight left. In reality I'm finding myself agreeing more and more with people on the right on some key issues such as 1A rights, gun control, immigration and a few others. I however have views that definitely kick me out of the far right conservative camp so, again, it's really more of an issues approach is how I frame things. I think both the dems and the repugs are corrupt and are both power hungry.
I am globalist as well, although different from you. Agree with you about the leftist assumptions and assigning of viewpoints you don’t hold. Some people just feel the need to fuel their ignorance and anger.
Today's Democrat Party (Post Clinton) is nothing more than an upgraded version of the communist party and should be shunned at all costs. If you read the Communist Manifesto or Das Kapital, they literally make the same arguments that Obama, Bernie Sanders, EZ Warren and others at high level positions have made.
Leftism is all about big government, totalitarian oppression these days. They want Royalty back. It is the antithesis of the American experience and purpose.
*I am, in a sense, a globalist...the opposite kind of John McCain though. I want technology to uplift the world, not military conflict
*I am rabidly anti social conservative in almost every way you can think of...except I like the idea of people having handguns.
*I am rabidly concerned about the environment in many ways. That's for humanity's benefit though. I don't really care what else goes extinct with a few exceptions. Dolphins and whales the great apes and elephants may have minds that aren't as different from our as we think. You can, however, strip mine all the spotted owl forests tomorrow though, if you want. If the rhinos go extinct I won't even notice, and if the African big cats all go extinct I'll probably consider that slightly more of a pro than a con. Also...I don't really care where we drill for oil or what forests it annihilates. I figure someone's going to take it anyway. We might as well do it now. I do want to preserve the Amazon rainforest though, because it's a noteworthy oxygen supplier for our planet, and because the place is filled with potential medicines, and because Native people's live there...particularly because they lack our disease resistance.
*I like to think about the big issues and ignore the small ones. My biggest concerns are pandemics, global warming, automation's affects on society, the risk of satellites in orbit colliding in a chain reaction, and anything that might be a threat to our species over the course of the next several centuries.
*I'm so rabidly opposed to much of social conservatism...not so much because I'm passionate about protecting the fellow members of my country, but because I see much of social conservatism as wasting energy and encouraging corrupt thought processes that may spread and distract from the important issues, which affect the far future. In my mind,a mentality that says, "gay marriage should be illegal" is destructive not so much due to that issue...but because it reveals an irrational mentality that will probably cause problems in the future, that I'd like to discourage.
*I've gotten into some very angry discussions with animal-rights activists. They'll literally view me as Hitler sometimes...especially when I tell them that my long term goal is genuinely the destruction of the Earth. I figure in a few thousand years we'll just leave Earth and blow the whole thing up and put all the animal life out of it's misery. Then, hopefully, we'll wander the universe destroying all other life we find, except for our fellow spacefarers, for its own benefit.
*I generally consider the democrats and everything to the left of them as being more nationalistic than I'd like. I'd say John McCain was a globalist, but he's the opposite kind of globalist that I am. In my mind, there are right and wrong types of globalism, and I'm probably going to disagree with my fellow globalists a lot.
*I'm quite opposed to many of the behaviors of NASA...a view many of my fellow far-thinkers lack. I look at it like, a lot of that money spent going to the moon and that we plan to spend going to Mars could be spent developing clean energy techs that will make it easier for us to survive over the long run.
*I don't care about immigration. At some point, I may decide I like the idea of universal healthcare...but I really don't care enough to look into it. In my mind, the purpose of first world nations is to develop the technology that can assist the species survive...and the main reason I tend to align myself with the left is because they usually seem more interested in doing that than the right. However...if someone elects some Green Tea Party member into office, and they say, "We're going to suck all the money away from public schools we possibly can...because screw the poor people...and invest that into fusion power research" I will vote for that person in a heartbeat.
*I don't really care about the long term survival of the United States that much. Don't listen to anything I say regarding immigration or taxation because I'm undoubtedly just pulling things out of my behind and have no idea what I'm talking about.
And yet...I get tossed into the generic "leftist" pile and people assume I have positions I have absolutely no interest in.
What's the point of treating "liberal" and "leftist" and "democrat" as if it's some ethnic slur that you say in disdain of a whole group of people? It's quite cringeworthy and it happens constantly. It's a pointless distraction from specific arguments. It demonizes half the country, despite much of that half the country probably having more positions in common with you than many other people on the right.
It's and endless process...just everywhere you go..."democrats are evil...blaargh!"...just nothing more specific than that...just a constant stream of comments about how Democrats are Hitler, and anything more left-leaning than them is double Hitler.
I'm talking to individuals who do this, not to the entire Republican party, by the way. There are still a ton of you, all over this forum.
Because it's an intellectually lazy, cheap way to rant without getting pinned down on specifics (which may often refute their positions).
Leftism is all about big government, totalitarian oppression these days. They want Royalty back. It is the antithesis of the American experience and purpose.
Exactly! the greatest threats to the continuance of human progress emerges not from individuals, but from a collection of losers in the street who perceive any success story -- even that of a master pitchman like Limbaugh, or an occasional, possibly even deliberate buffoon like Trump, as a threat to their shallow, egalitarian existence.
It happened in France in 1789-94, In Russia in 1917-19, In Germany in 1922-34, and there is an organized gang of ideologues, and occasional loud-mouthed thugs who would like to see it happen here.
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Originally Posted by dman72
40 years of Rush Limbaugh and all of those he paved the way for. That pretty much sums it up. This vernacular is part of standard discourse now because of his cultural impact. He made turning liberals into the devil a form of entertainment instead of the dry stoic William F Buckley approach. Next thing you know, guys living in trailer parks start using the same rhetoric as Buckley, with a much poorer vocabulary.
That and the Lee Atwater approach to white identity politics. N word changes to "welfare queen", etc.
A preceptive point as Exhibit 'A'
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Because they hate us.
pre-digested for the masses led by the asses in Exhibit 'b'.
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Perhaps look up the definition of a globalist before making such statements.
With everything, there is a theory and there is a reality.
I already know what the reality of globalism is, and it isn’t pretty.
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