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Well since the FISC is the oversight of the FBI, the OP's poll is nonsensical...
Nope. The Litigation Section of the NSD reviews and prepares requests for Attorney General authorization to use FISA information in criminal and non-criminal proceedings.
Atkinson was a key player in the systemic FISA abuse. The head of the NSD when the FISA abuse took place was Assistant Attorney General Mary McCord. Atkinson was McCord's senior counsel. It all passed through him.
Nope. The Litigation Section of the NSD reviews and prepares requests for Attorney General authorization to use FISA information in criminal and non-criminal proceedings.
Atkinson was a key player in the systemic FISA abuse. The head of the NSD when the FISA abuse took place was Assistant Attorney General Mary McCord. Atkinson was McCord's senior counsel. It all passed through him.
Barr is the godfather of the Patriot Act, he helped the phone companies hand over bulk records of phone calls back in 1992, he also served at chief counsel at Verizon allowing the federal government access to US citizens. But here you are pointing out Atkinson since he signed off on some FISA applications.
This isn't partisan, both parties have a hand in this stupid "war on terror".
Barr will be the one arguing in the senate to continue the Patriot Act in some modified form, he is not the hero people make him out.
Barr is the godfather of the Patriot Act, he helped the phone companies hand over bulk records of phone calls back in 1992, he also served at chief counsel at Verizon allowing the federal government access to US citizens. But here you are pointing out Atkinson since he signed off on some FISA applications.
This isn't partisan, both parties have a hand in this stupid "war on terror".
Barr will be the one arguing in the senate to continue the Patriot Act in some modified form, he is not the hero people make him out.
What does any of that have to do with Atkinson passing along ALL of the blatant FISA abuse as McCord's NSD senior counsel? Again, FYI, the Litigation Section of the NSD reviews and prepares requests for Attorney General authorization to use FISA information.
Barr is the godfather of the Patriot Act, he helped the phone companies hand over bulk records of phone calls back in 1992, he also served at chief counsel at Verizon allowing the federal government access to US citizens. But here you are pointing out Atkinson since he signed off on some FISA applications.
This isn't partisan, both parties have a hand in this stupid "war on terror".
Barr will be the one arguing in the senate to continue the Patriot Act in some modified form, he is not the hero people make him out.
Anytime there is an opportunity to make our country less safe or to side with the self proclaimed enemies, Democrat leftists are right there to celebrate and promote that. It is really remarkable in an especially creepy and dirty sort of way the consistent sympathy that people like you display towards murdering terrorists and people who are openly working to bring us down and cause us harm. Of course you guys have been doing this for many years now.
The Patriot Act has its flaws, that is for certain. I started this thread to emphasize that point. But after we were attacked on 9/11 and thousands of innocent Americans were brutally murdered as a result of a terrorist conspiracy carried out here on American soil, it was no longer possible for any patriotic American to stick their heads in the sand and pretend that organized international terrorism was something that we were not threatened by, under attack from or that we could ignore.
Of course when I refer to patriotic Americans, I am certainly not referring to you or those people who think and act like you.
The war on terror was and is necessary. We have terrorist enemies that are trying to destroy us. The Patriot Act, flawed though it is, was designed to provide some tools to help defend us from these threats. In the case of the FISA provisions, these are information gathering tools.
We still need to be able to gather the information that the FISA provisions of the Patriot Act were designed to procure. However, we also need to protect the constitutional rights of Americans while we are doing this. There is no reason why we should not be able to do both.
After the blatant abuse and obvious corruption of these processes and procedures with regards to the unlawful surveillance of President Trump's campaign and also apparently in many other FISA warrant application cases, there now FINALLY appears to be support for the reforming the provisions of this law. That will not mean doing away with the ability to get surveillance warrants on the enemies of our country.
Hopefully that will mean this will be done in a much more accountable way, which recognizes that there are no experts or authorities that can or should be blindly trusted, without appropriate oversight and accountability. That is true regardless of whether we are talking about the heads of the DOJ, the FBI, our national security services, the head of the CDC, the National Institute of Health, the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) or anyone else.
No longer can or should these people be blindly trusted. Not anymore.
You would think this would have been one of the first things this administration would have addressed if it was so unlawful, so wrong, blah blah blah.
THree years in and still waiting right?
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