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Old 04-03-2020, 07:22 PM
 
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Trump could have ordered companies to manufacture ventilators and PPE that governors are begging for. A month ago. He still has not. People are dying painful deaths without ventilators. Did you ever think the most powerful , richest, country will have to let people die, health professionals to risk contamination in order to do their jobs without protection?
Is it even possible this is due to the lack of will to save lives? To simply let the old and sick die?

 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:27 PM
 
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He used the DPA to force GM to make them.
Many companies are in process of making them that have never made them before but the DPA isn't something magic that can cause them to go from 0-100% rate instantly.
Ramping up production takes time.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:29 PM
 
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Trump could have ordered companies to manufacture ventilators and PPE that governors are begging for. A month ago. He still has not. People are dying painful deaths without ventilators. Did you ever think the most powerful , richest, country will have to let people die, health professionals to risk contamination in order to do their jobs without protection?
Is it even possible this is due to the lack of will to save lives? To simply let the old and sick die?
Yes he could have. But he didn't know they needed them. It's up to local governments to petition him for vents a month ago, because they know best what they need. They did not. Cuomo was making headlines asking for 30,000 vents last week. That's too late to be asking for that many vents.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:41 PM
 
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Yes he could have. But he didn't know they needed them. It's up to local governments to petition him for vents a month ago, because they know best what they need. They did not. Cuomo was making headlines asking for 30,000 vents last week. That's too late to be asking for that many vents.
He didn’t know??. Sir. He is the Prez. He has pandemic information- he has war info -he has terrorism info - he even alien from mars info. He doesn’t trust people for that info. His delay even a day - is lack of trust. Intel was on his desk Jan 3 .
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:42 PM
 
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He didn’t know??. Sir. He is the Prez. He has pandemic information- he has war info -he has terrorism info - he even alien from mars info. He doesn’t trust people for that info. His delay even a day - is lack of trust. Intel was on his desk Jan 3 .
It's not his job to know the number of vents per municipality and what is needed. That's the job of local leaders to communicate that to him. They failed there.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:51 PM
 
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Typical Trumpism. Find any thing or any one to blame except the person ultimately responsible that should have a intelligent staff in place with the forethought and vision to actually run a country. Good luck with that when it comes to Trump.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:53 PM
 
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He didn’t know??. Sir. He is the Prez. He has pandemic information- he has war info -he has terrorism info - he even alien from mars info. He doesn’t trust people for that info. His delay even a day - is lack of trust. Intel was on his desk Jan 3 .
Call out Dr. Birx and Dr. Fauci too - they stated during press briefing yesterday they didn't know.
Blame WHO and China too while your at it - declared no human to human transmission until second half of January.

I get sick and tired of people on this forum supporting policy that leads to outsourcing of manufacturing jobs then complain about our capacity to manufacture while having no understanding of manufacturing.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:53 PM
 
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Why didnt the great pandemic team already have us well supplied? Blame a plenty
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:56 PM
 
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Ventilators are nearly useless. 50-80% of CV-19 patients who are put on ventilators die anyway.
 
Old 04-03-2020, 07:57 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Typical Trumpism. Find any thing or any one to blame except the person ultimately responsible that should have a intelligent staff in place with the forethought and vision to actually run a country. Good luck with that when it comes to Trump.
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