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Old 04-09-2020, 07:29 PM
 
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News - Research in Germany
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Insufficient and delayed testing may explain why some European countries, such as Italy and Spain, are experiencing much higher casualty numbers (relative to reported confirmed cases) than Germany, which has detected an estimated 15.6% of infections compared to only 3.5% in Italy or 1.7% in Spain. Detection rates are even lower in the United States (1.6%) and the United Kingdom (1.2%) .
This is what I suspected. An Iceland study showed that half of the people with COVID have no symptoms. I think I had it and I probably exposed 20 people at work. A few other people at work missed a day of work after I did. This means that a lot of people are sitting home when they don't need to. We really need to get that antibody test.
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public health officials are hoping that tens of millions of Americans will have access to a simple blood test that can identify recovered patients who've developed some kind of immune response to the virus.

The idea behind the push is that people who have been exposed to the virus form antibodies in their bloodstream that may help them to fight off another infection. The hope is that the body's antibodies against COVID-19 can diminish the chances of re-infection. Theoretically, those found to have immunized antibodies could then return to work and help reignite the economy.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/simp...ry?id=70024837

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Old 04-09-2020, 07:41 PM
 
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The numbers seem highly speculative to me. But if you believe them then....



one can conclude based upon those numbers that the US Death/Infection rate is actually the lowest/best in the world. And that the US is much closer to herd immunity than any other Country! Win-win.
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Old 04-09-2020, 07:46 PM
 
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......or so the Germans would have you believe
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Old 04-09-2020, 07:49 PM
 
Location: Park City, UT
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When more studies come out confirming this, then hopefully our governments wise up and end all of this idiotic lockdown nonsense.

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......or so the Germans would have you believe
What exactly are you implying?
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Old 04-09-2020, 07:49 PM
 
Location: NY
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......or so the Germans would have you believe
The following is only my opinion:

Would one feel more at ease believing the China?
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Old 04-09-2020, 07:57 PM
 
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What exactly are you implying?
Just an old bit that Norm Macdonald used to do when he anchored the SNL "fake news" as he called it.

He had several running gags like that. In that one he'd read a news headline and then say "....or so the Germans would have you believe" and then stare into the camera for a few seconds.


Another he'd read a headline and then say "Which once again proves my time tested theory, Germans love David Hasselhoff"


Those kinds of references don't really work if people don't know them ahead of time.
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Old 04-09-2020, 07:59 PM
 
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The following is only my opinion:

Would one feel more at ease believing the China?
I, just like anyone else that claims to believe what the Chinese say about anything, believe everything the Chinese say so long as their checks keep hitting the bank.
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:01 PM
 
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Lets, for argument's sake, say the German study is right, and the US has only detected 1.6% of all known SARS-CoV-2 infections, and we have 468,566 total cases currently (going by the world-o-meter stats), that would mean the total cases are really 29,285,375 or roughly 9% of the total US population. That's seems kinda high, no?

That would make our actual fatality rate 16,691/29,285,375 = 0.057%, I don't know about. That would be half as deadly as the annual flu. Yeah, I'm sure the US is missing cases, but not 98.4% of them.

Even to get to so-called herd immunity, we might need to get up to 80% of the entire population to have been infected and recovered, we have quite a ways to go!
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:02 PM
 
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The numbers seem highly speculative to me. But if you believe them then....



one can conclude based upon those numbers that the US Death/Infection rate is actually the lowest/best in the world. And that the US is much closer to herd immunity than any other Country! Win-win.
I believe they MIGHT be true. If we get an antibody test we could KNOW.
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Old 04-09-2020, 08:03 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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News - Research in Germany


This is what I suspected. An Iceland study showed that half of the people with COVID have no symptoms. I think I had it and I probably exposed 20 people at work. A few other people at work misted a day of work after I did. This means that a lot of people are sitting home when they don't need to. We really need to get that antibody test.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/simp...ry?id=70024837
We have insufficient testing capability that's for sure. We need to do better. I doubt that 1.6% number but I believe there are probably 5 people positive for every one identified....we need to test everyone.
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