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Old 04-11-2020, 04:38 PM
 
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The USA is a country of 90% have nots and 10% have it mostly all. People just don't realize it or are unwilling to accept the truth.
The really hard lesson to learn is that this is the normal human situation. We are a pyramidal species.

Deviations from this are temporary.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:40 PM
 
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If you want big government, move to one of the many countries that have it. We don't want it.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:44 PM
 
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If you want big government, move to one of the many countries that have it. We don't want it.
Hilarious if you think we don’t have big government.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:46 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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Good points, corporate America owns the government and the courts while people make senseless partisan arguments. The middle class has been stagnant for 30 years while executives make 300 times the average worker yet here they are making arguments worried about socialism.


This pandemic has exposed some real weaknesses in our country, I see people waiting for miles on line at food banks in several cities. So much for the healthy economy.
the middleclass has been dying a slow death for the last 30 years due to liberal policies
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:51 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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the middleclass has been dying a slow death for the last 30 years due to liberal policies
Specifically neo-liberal policies. The corporate democrat trash - the ones alike Obama/Biden/Pelosi/Steny Hoyer, etc.

Not all liberal policies cause the middle class to die. If you wanna pull an AOC and implement her federal tax brackets - i.e. tax the rich @ 70% on 10 mil+ and in exchange reduce the middle class/poor's federal income tax, it'll reverse that trend. Anyone with half a brain can figure that out.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:52 PM
 
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the middleclass has been dying a slow death for the last 30 years due to liberal policies
If by that you mean Reagan’s tax cuts and trickle down theory, sure. Middle class prosperity and wage growth has stagnated ever since. And “fiscal conservatives” racked up as much debt as possible.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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The really hard lesson to learn is that this is the normal human situation. We are a pyramidal species.

Deviations from this are temporary.
Unless you have a political revolution of course
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The really hard lesson to learn is that this is the normal human situation. We are a pyramidal species.

Deviations from this are temporary.
Yep, if you took all the money and distributed it evenly, the haves would soon have most of it again.
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Old 04-11-2020, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Yep, if you took all the money and distributed it evenly, the haves would soon have most of it again.
Progressive taxation's whole point is to counter that effect.

I mean real progressive taxation - not this 400k+ 37% rate as the top bracket, the tax situation right now is nowhere near as progressive as it needs to be. Thank Reaganomics for that.
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Old 04-11-2020, 05:04 PM
 
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ok so trickle down is a failure in your opinion.....




but.... the trickle up poverty (cradle to grave nanny state) of the globalist liberals is a complete failure, it has never worked
That does not exist in this country.
It is bootstrap capitalism for the majority of the people in this country and handouts and socialism for the rich.
That is what we have in this country.
Billions a year are spent by the rich on bank rolling the politicians.
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