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Old 04-15-2020, 03:32 PM
 
Location: USA
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Why fight with a British rock band? WHO.
WHO is on first base.
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Old 04-15-2020, 03:34 PM
 
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WHO reported on what they were told at the start. Trump who had even better info praised China for their transparency. Remember, Trump-unlike the WHO-has spies.

A ton of people like to criticize the WHO, without comprehending that the WHO can only report what they are told. Its not the WHO job to spy on countries, or call them liars.



But sure, keep trying to blame them for Trumps failure to lead. It still doesn't change reality, that the only person cheer leading China the most at the start was Trump. Who if he listened would have known better. The WHO on the other hand has to play nice with countries. China will take over the WHO after this, and become more and more the leader of the world.
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Old 04-15-2020, 03:40 PM
 
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A ton of people like to criticize the WHO, without comprehending that the WHO can only report what they are told.
Then they are of no value to anyone other than countries who want false propaganda spread by a seemingly legitimate source. Sounds like a perfect reason to put them down.
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Old 04-15-2020, 03:47 PM
 
Location: In Your Head
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Why fight with a British rock band? WHO.
We wouldn’t want to... Clash with them.
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Old 04-15-2020, 04:27 PM
 
Location: Free State of Florida
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let China & their 2 friends have theur system, and the USA and the rest of the planet will have ours.

However, no Chinese or their friends will be allowed to enter our territory's, and vice versa.

Let's see how long China, Iran, and N Korea last w/o the West's money.
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Old 04-15-2020, 04:29 PM
 
Location: Florida
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When we elected "theDonald" we served up world leadership on a tee. We are dealing with a physical virus pandemic, but four years ago we suffered from a political virus. Thanks Steve Bannon (a.k.a Dr. Frankenstein).

Do you really think China will do a worse job of world leadership than the country that elected theDonald?


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Axios has such a good way of summing up complex problems in a short article, that is well referenced. Long story made short, China is working to have the world see it as the center of many things, including international health cooperation.

That is dangerous. It would be just as dangerous if the US, or France, or Brazil tried the same thing. Health and diseases have no right-wing or left-wing, democratic or dictator way of best being addressed.

Science is the only thing, and to be effective, it needs to be shared, not be put into competition. Trump's move is fraught with dangers, and China could be the winner

https://www.axios.com/china-world-he...128e28415.html
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Old 04-15-2020, 04:35 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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WHO can join China and become CHO.

Other countries + United States can form another org to replacd WHO
This post is a fantasy, at least under this administration. Trump isn’t interested in international alliances.
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Old 04-15-2020, 06:08 PM
 
Location: Raymond James Stadium, FL
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I hope people understand cutting off funding is simply the way the Orange Man negotiates. In the end there will be funding again. Hopefully it will be after one of OUR doctors runs WHO.
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Old 04-15-2020, 06:16 PM
 
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https://www.propublica.org/article/t...o-shows#942979

"A draft State Department memo says the move would “cede ground” to China and hobble the global response to the coronavirus pandemic."

Interesting that this is exactly the analysis I suggested in the OP... China would be the go to, and that is dangerous.
They leave out the other option !!!
That is the WHO cleans up its act with US oversight and becomes the outfit they were supposed to be and get US funding !!!!
If they don't want to do that then screw-m !!!

Any idea that we have to keep funding those who give the US the short end of the stick is BS !!! Both those on the left and the right have made similar claims for decades !!! They are wrong !!! If we keep funding failure we keep getting more failure and that's why we are in this position now with the WHO !!!
No business funds failure and stays in business and no country will long endure with that mindset !!!

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Old 04-15-2020, 06:37 PM
 
Location: SE Asia
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WHO reported on what they were told at the start. Trump who had even better info praised China for their transparency. Remember, Trump-unlike the WHO-has spies.

A ton of people like to criticize the WHO, without comprehending that the WHO can only report what they are told. Its not the WHO job to spy on countries, or call them liars.



But sure, keep trying to blame them for Trumps failure to lead. It still doesn't change reality, that the only person cheer leading China the most at the start was Trump. Who if he listened would have known better. The WHO on the other hand has to play nice with countries. China will take over the WHO after this, and become more and more the leader of the world.
NO, No free pass.

Who failed and it may have even been a predicted failure. If I get your point, WHO like UN weapons inspectors rely on cooperation and transparency to be effective. China absolutely lied to, stonewalled, and misled WHO. That is on China. What The Who owns is not calling China out and just saying it. "WE have no idea what's really going on or how dangerous it is because China is not cooperating. We recommend a lock down on China until we know more." Boom, that would have put the crosshairs where they belong.

Trump's spies? Seriously? The same incompetent, feces throwing, goons, who blamed Benghazi on a Youtube Video? Those spies? The ones whose idea of a terrorist warning is "The bad guys are planning something. It may include, planes, trains or automobiles and there may or may not be bombs involved and it may or may not happen within the next decade." Yeah good warning.

If our spies are so good, we would be stealing military secretes from China, blocking them from stealing from us and this pandemic might have been prevented from kicking our collective butts. Well, not NYC, they were determined to be the victim and still are.
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