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Old 04-16-2020, 11:05 PM
 
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There's lots of conservatives that oppose Trump. When there's no conservative candidate, the conservatives will have to weigh other values. Two liberal candidates isn't a good place to be.
No, there aren't any conservatives who oppose Trump. There are conservatives who disagree with him, conservatives who are disappointed by him, and conservatives who strongly dislike his personal deportment. But no conservative opposes him, since there is no superior alternative.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:05 PM
 
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Look at states in the North East. Trump's tax plan is having people there pay more taxes into the federal government. It's in support of his liberal big federal government agenda as opposed to the conservative views of more power states (where the tax dollars stay closer to the states and people) and lesser powerful federal government.
The federal government shouldn't subsidize the people who choose to live in over-taxed cities and states.

There federal taxes weren't raised, their subsidies were removed.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:07 PM
 
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Look at states in the North East. Trump's tax plan is having people there pay more taxes into the federal government. It's in support of his liberal big federal government agenda as opposed to the conservative views of more power states (where the tax dollars stay closer to the states and people) and lesser powerful federal government.
Trump-backing liberals will blame the states for having high taxes.... even though the states being empowered is founded in conservative ideology. Federal tax revenue actually went up but these liberals won't discuss that.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:08 PM
 
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The federal government shouldn't subsidize the people who choose to live in over-taxed cities and states.

There federal taxes weren't raised, their subsidies were removed.
So you agree that people are taxed more.

You call it a subsidy but that "subsidy" is still in place. The federal government needs to stop overspending and reduce the collection of taxes. Not increase it like Trump did.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:09 PM
 
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Trump-backing liberals will blame the states for having high taxes.... even though the states being empowered is founded in conservative ideology. Federal tax revenue actually went up but these liberals won't discuss that.
Lol.

High taxes are not a conservative value.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:10 PM
 
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No, there aren't any conservatives who oppose Trump. There are conservatives who disagree with him, conservatives who are disappointed by him, and conservatives who strongly dislike his personal deportment. But no conservative opposes him, since there is no superior alternative.
Your opinion is far from reality. This may be what you dream of, but the reality is that there's plenty of conservatives that oppose Trump.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:10 PM
 
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So you agree that people are taxed more.

You call it a subsidy but that "subsidy" is still in place. The federal government needs to stop overspending and reduce the collection of taxes. Not increase it like Trump did.
Yes, if you live under liberal rule in NYC, you are taxed substantially more.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:12 PM
 
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Your opinion is far from reality. This may be what you dream of, but the reality is that there's plenty of conservatives that oppose Trump.
And no conservative is going to choose a less conservative Biden over Trump.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:12 PM
 
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Lol.

High taxes are not a conservative value.
Exactly. And Trump has people paying more taxes than they used to. Especially among hard working people so he can subsidize people with children and people of lower income. Liberal Trump is all about taxing some people to distribute wealth to others. His $1200 check that bears his name is another good example of his liberal social values.
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Old 04-16-2020, 11:13 PM
 
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And no conservative is going to choose a less conservative Biden over Trump.
Your opinion is far from reality. This may be what you dream of, but the reality is that there's plenty of conservatives that oppose Trump. Conservatives just don't align with Trump's liberal values. They will use other factors to choose who they vote for... and we'll see a spread of conservative voters on both sides.

It's so strange that you speak in absolutes. Lacks credibility.
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