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Old 04-19-2020, 10:54 PM
 
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We all just need to accept something - and it will be harder to take for some people more than others.

In general, Democrats will always out scheme Republicans.

The Republicans best offense seems to be reacting when the Democrats screw stuff up.

What The MSM Won’t Tell You About Democrats’ Voter Suppression In The Wisconsin Election

But what if Democrats did tilt the election? Mounting evidence suggests that’s the case. The Democrat-driven timeline shows how the left swung the door wide open for liberal voters to cast their ballots early, while slamming it shut on conservative voters in the eleventh hour.

The prevailing election narrative addresses only the final step in a long train of political maneuvers. Conservatives suppressed voters, the story goes, because Republican leadership refused to move the election at Democratic Gov. Tony Evers’ request and because conservative courts disenfranchised voters by ruling that absentee ballots must be postmarked by Election Day, April 7, overturning a lower court decision that ballots could be returned until April 13. According to the media, Republicans forced voters to choose either their safety or their right to vote. But the partisanship began long before April 6.


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Old 04-19-2020, 10:56 PM
 
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
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What the Wisconsin Democrat Party did to suppress votes and rig the election is really quite masterful. And then they have morons believing that it was the GOP that was playing games. I'm pretty sure Trump will lose WI now that Evers is in office to cheat. There is no doubt the Democrats will cheat and lie to regain power.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:08 PM
 
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I shake my head at people who believe Trump has it in the bag for 2020. They don't understand who they are dealing with and how diabolical they can be.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:15 PM
 
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What the Wisconsin Democrat Party did to suppress votes and rig the election is really quite masterful. And then they have morons believing that it was the GOP that was playing games. I'm pretty sure Trump will lose WI now that Evers is in office to cheat. There is no doubt the Democrats will cheat and lie to regain power.
What did the democratic party do to suppress the vote. They wanted to change the date but the republicans got their way. So no date change. Plus most polling stations were closed by republicans. During this pandemic democrats still came out to vote and god bless them for putting their lives on the line and waiting for hours in line to vote. I guess the wimpy republicans stayed home. It's all about who goes out to vote.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:15 PM
 
Location: Oklahoma
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So is she saying that there were 160,000 + bogus mail in votes with bad post marks and such?

The rest of the stuff is just silly. She whines that early voting is an advantage to democrats? Even if true, that's not fraud. Whines about limited polling places. That inconveniences everyone. Whines about the governor suggesting things almost all of which were shut down. There was no "there" there.... in the article.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:34 PM
 
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So is she saying that there were 160,000 + bogus mail in votes with bad post marks and such?

The rest of the stuff is just silly. She whines that early voting is an advantage to democrats? Even if true, that's not fraud. Whines about limited polling places. That inconveniences everyone. Whines about the governor suggesting things almost all of which were shut down. There was no "there" there.... in the article.
You have no problem with your first sentence? You kinda rolled over that like a worn out speed bump.

160K is a huge number for a non-November election, along with the virus concerns.
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Old 04-20-2020, 12:21 AM
 
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We all just need to accept something - and it will be harder to take for some people more than others.

In general, Democrats will always out scheme Republicans.

The Republicans best offense seems to be reacting when the Democrats screw stuff up.

What The MSM Won’t Tell You About Democrats’ Voter Suppression In The Wisconsin Election

But what if Democrats did tilt the election? Mounting evidence suggests that’s the case. The Democrat-driven timeline shows how the left swung the door wide open for liberal voters to cast their ballots early, while slamming it shut on conservative voters in the eleventh hour.

The prevailing election narrative addresses only the final step in a long train of political maneuvers. Conservatives suppressed voters, the story goes, because Republican leadership refused to move the election at Democratic Gov. Tony Evers’ request and because conservative courts disenfranchised voters by ruling that absentee ballots must be postmarked by Election Day, April 7, overturning a lower court decision that ballots could be returned until April 13. According to the media, Republicans forced voters to choose either their safety or their right to vote. But the partisanship began long before April 6.


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Ok, so the right-wing's argument is that the WI governor purposely did things last minute to try to not give the GOP time to react or prepare in advance.

Well, ok.

But there is a big hole in that argument - the governor also tried to postpone the election! This "he didn't give us enough time" or "he tried to jam this through last minute" arguments fly out the window when the supposed culprit tried to push the election back by two months. Heck, if the evil sinister plan is to drop everything on the GOP last minute, then why oh why did the Democrats postpone the election?????????????!!!!!

If "last minute" or "not enough time" or "we didn't know in advance" were the issue with the GOP, that's more reasons for them to accept the postponement and give them enough time to do what they needed to do.


The argument about liberal cities have earlier voting than rural conservative areas is pure rubbish - cities have more people so naturally they need a bigger window. If rural areas would like to vote as early as liberal cities, there's nothing stopping them from doing that. No liberal is going to travel to rural conservative towns and block people from voting, alright. This argument is basically down to, "Liberals are more organized, so they committed election fraud." Ridiculous.

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Old 04-20-2020, 01:03 AM
 
Location: Honolulu/DMV Area/NYC
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Ok, so the right-wing's argument is that the WI governor purposely did things last minute to try to not give the GOP time to react or prepare in advance.

Well, ok.

But there is a big hole in that argument - the governor also tried to postpone the election! This "he didn't give us enough time" or "he tried to jam this through last minute" arguments fly out the window when the supposed culprit tried to push the election back by two months. Heck, if the evil sinister plan is to drop everything on the GOP last minute, then why oh why did the Democrats postpone the election?????????????!!!!!

If "last minute" or "not enough time" or "we didn't know in advance" were the issue with the GOP, that's more reasons for them to accept the postponement and give them enough time to do what they needed to do.


The argument about liberal cities have earlier voting than rural conservative areas is pure rubbish - cities have more people so naturally they need a bigger window. If rural areas would like to vote as early as liberal cities, there's nothing stopping them from doing that. No liberal is going to travel to rural conservative towns and block people from voting, alright. This argument is basically down to, "Liberals are more organized, so they committed election fraud." Ridiculous.

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While I don't necessarily buy into any of the arguments, the governor tried to postpone the election at the last hour, after being against such a move for weeks and knowing that he'd have no luck in getting it legislatively postponed at the final hour.
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