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Old 04-21-2020, 09:30 AM
 
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From today's New York Post:

"An Ohio man who dismissed the coronavirus pandemic as a “political ploy” and ripped his state’s lock down as “bulls–t,” has died of COVID-19, according to reports.

John W. McDaniel, 60, passed away last Wednesday in Columbus — exactly a month after reportedly firing off a series of angry messages about the contagion."

https://nypost.com/2020/04/21/man-di...olitical-ploy/
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Old 04-21-2020, 09:31 AM
 
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The amount of smug satisfaction some on the left are displaying at the deaths of people who are critical of the more draconian government lock down measures is quite revealing, will not be forgotten and only adds to the divisiveness in this country at a time when we really ought to be coming together. I can't help but wonder if the people expressing these sentiments aren't unwitting tools of a larger agenda.
I have a son who was on a vent for 11 days.** How many people did idiots like this put in that kind of danger due to their ignorance? Even one is too many. Don't ask me to feel sorry for people who disregard everyone else's safety in service to their own willful ignorance.

**For those who have asked, he was released from the hospital last week and is with me now, recovering.
 
Old 04-21-2020, 09:35 AM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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In other words, the messenger, the bringer of the news, whether factual or not, is evil? Such news should be ignored and not reported?

Nope. Just a general statement of my opinion.
 
Old 04-21-2020, 09:39 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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He totally owned the libs and the fake news media!
In other words, everybody in the media should have always ignored what he wrote and his death. After all, the conservative media, such as InfoWars and Breitbart are ignoring it. The other Media by not ignoring it are not helping in starting the economy back to normal.
 
Old 04-21-2020, 09:41 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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How unfortunate.

But Darwin.
 
Old 04-21-2020, 09:47 AM
 
Location: In the bee-loud glade
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Originally Posted by Toxic Waltz View Post
The amount of smug satisfaction some on the left are displaying at the deaths of people who are critical of the more draconian government lock down measures is quite revealing, will not be forgotten and only adds to the divisiveness in this country at a time when we really ought to be coming together. I can't help but wonder if the people expressing these sentiments aren't unwitting tools of a larger agenda.
Have you seen some of the protests (organised by the Kochs, talk about a larger agenda) where people are climbing all over each other. And then the Trump responds to a question about this by saying that the protesters seem to like him (talk about a small minded agenda). Some of those people may get sick as a result of these protests and all the Trump can do is beat off about it.

So here's me. I've always been left leaning politically. I've always believed that liberals have their impulses curbed by conservatives. I've always believed that conservatives get pulled along by liberals toward change that really needs to happen. The two ends supported the middle where most of us are most comfortable. The consequence was that nothing happened too quickly and what did happen or change did so in a mostly orderly way. And everyone was a little discontented, which sounds less than lofty but in a country this big everyone won't want or need the same things.

The last 15 or 20 years, we wear our political affiliations like gang colors. The right are all fascist hate mongers and the left are all socialist/communist....., well, hate mongers. Because at this point we do kind of hate each other, at least on forums like this and in other media where the two sides don't have to see each other after spewing our dogma. But the thing is, I bet you and I, and I'm not on here much so I don't know your posting history and likely you don't know mine, but if we could sit down and talk like real people we'd find some common ground. We'd agree on some goals and some methods to meet those goals. We might be able to bargain and compromise in areas where we have fairly marked disagreements. We might be able to agree to disagree in some areas, but still co-exist and maybe even cordially.

I'm 62. It didn't used to be this way.
 
Old 04-21-2020, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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He was 60 and had a history of cancer, so surely that made him more vulnerable to this virus. All the more reason he should have taken the threat seriously.
He did not have a "history" of cancer.

He had cancer briefly 32 years ago, had surgery, end of story.

After that, he had children and ran his family construction business, so it's not like he spent the last 32 years on Social Security Disability drinking beer all day and watching Gunsmoke re-runs.

For the record, the median age of death in Ohio is 51 years from COVID-19.

For those who might be confused, median and mean -- average -- are not the same thing.

The median age is the most common age of death, meaning if you had a graph, more people at age 51 die than any other age.

As I mentioned before, 73.1% of COVID-19 people are between age 18-64, not age 75-100.
 
Old 04-21-2020, 10:00 AM
 
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Well if you believe it is a political ploy and you simply go about your day without taking any extra precautions then guess what could happen... Should we nominate this guy for the Darwin award?

The virus is not a political ploy but the Democrats are certainly not letting the crisis go to waste.
It is Trump who politicized this crises from the very beginning. We pretty much know why, he wanted to prop up the stock market by lying about it.

Everyone else talking about the threat was making his lies really hard to pitch, so he attacked it as a "Democrat Hoax", when actually it was just news about a genuine health concern. We all heard him say that, there is video of him proclaiming that very thing at his rallies, while concurrently he was claiming that it would magically go away, possibly in April

Following the 'if you are not with me, you are against me' MO of his, Trump attacked the medical community as hoaxing Democrats, and the Trump following proceeded to pile on. We have seen that right here in multiple threads pooh poohing the dangers of this disease.

All of this polarization over the new Corona virus threat, a danger common to all, was completely unnecessary, and it starts squarely with Trump.

43,495 deaths as of this writing, and counting ...
 
Old 04-21-2020, 10:04 AM
 
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So you suppose having cancer had nothing to do with it?
Even if it did we all know people with pre-existing health conditions tend to die at much higher rates. This is why folks shouldn’t believe it’s a political ploy or fake news.
 
Old 04-21-2020, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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He did not have a "history" of cancer.

He had cancer briefly 32 years ago, had surgery, end of story.

After that, he had children and ran his family construction business, so it's not like he spent the last 32 years on Social Security Disability drinking beer all day and watching Gunsmoke re-runs.

For the record, the median age of death in Ohio is 51 years from COVID-19.

For those who might be confused, median and mean -- average -- are not the same thing.

The median age is the most common age of death, meaning if you had a graph, more people at age 51 die than any other age.

As I mentioned before, 73.1% of COVID-19 people are between age 18-64, not age 75-100.
18-64 is too wide of a range to have any meaning. In Oklahoma, by a large majority, deaths from COVID-19 are from those past age 50.
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