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Old 04-29-2020, 08:26 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Originally Posted by Matadora View Post
Of course there is but it's not available yet as I'm sure the studies are not complete. No point in releasing incomplete data.

Like I stated previously, I just attended a webinar by David M. Engman, MD, PhD. Dr. Engman is Chairman Emeritus, Department of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine, Cedars Sinai Medical Center, Los Angeles, CA.

He stated they are just in the beginning stages of doing studies about COVID-19 positive asymptomatic people.
my point - sorry it seems hard to understand...

Do they not collect data that tells us "Symptomatic - these symptoms" or "asymptomatic" when they take the test?

Sure, there's an "innumerable" combination of the 6-10 symptoms that have been exhibited in significant numbers.

But there's only 1 "Positive-asymptomatic".

 
Old 04-29-2020, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Raleigh NC
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Current R0 estimate for COVID-19 is ~5.7. Measles R0 value is 18-20. Nasty stuff, the measles.
current upper limit ESTIMATE, according to Matador. Lower limit ESTIMATE is near 1, definitely below 2.
 
Old 04-29-2020, 09:38 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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current upper limit ESTIMATE, according to Matador. Lower limit ESTIMATE is near 1, definitely below 2.
I'm just going by Sanche et al. (2020). Their CI is pretty broad though: 3.8–8.9, with 95% confidence.
 
Old 04-29-2020, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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my point - sorry it seems hard to understand...
It's not hard for me to understand anything you post. It's clear to me that you don't understand how to ask what you are wanting to understand.
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Do they not collect data that tells us "Symptomatic - these symptoms" or "asymptomatic" when they take the test?
Again you're not making much sense here.

What kind of data do you think can be collected from a person who tests positive for COVID-19 but shows not one single symptom of having this virus when many of these cases go undetected?

Study: Many asymptomatic COVID-19 cases undetected
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Originally Posted by BoBromhal View Post
Sure, there's an "innumerable" combination of the 6-10 symptoms that have been exhibited in significant numbers.

But there's only 1 "Positive-asymptomatic".
Again you are not making much sense here.

Asymptomatic simply means a person is not producing any signs or symptoms of having COVID-19...yet are positive for the virus.

Last edited by Matadora; 04-29-2020 at 11:26 PM..
 
Old 04-29-2020, 11:31 PM
 
Location: Pacific 🌉 °N, 🌄°W
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Originally Posted by rjshae View Post
Current R0 estimate for COVID-19 is ~5.7. Measles R0 value is 18-20. Nasty stuff, the measles.
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Originally Posted by BoBromhal View Post
current upper limit ESTIMATE, according to Matadora. Lower limit ESTIMATE is near 1, definitely below 2.
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Originally Posted by Matadora View Post
I posted about the R0 values in post #467

The estimated median R0 value for this virus is 1.4 - 5.7, meaning that the average infected person transmits this virus to as many as 5 or 6 other people. The R0 value for the seasonal flu is only 1-2.
This is not according to me but according to the information presented at the COVID-19 webinar I attended last week.

This webinar was presented by David M. Engman, MD, PhD. Dr. Engman is Chairman Emeritus, Department of Pathology & Laboratory Medicine, Cedars Sinai Medical Center, Los Angeles, CA.
 
Old 04-30-2020, 04:51 AM
 
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No need to guess then Matadora won't like this article who did a flashback about the 1968 Hong Kong flu and the Wuhan flu.


There also other users on C-D forums who referred to the Hong Kong flu on various posts https://www.city-data.com/forum/sear...rchid=39395769 I wasn't born yet, I'm a Gen X-er but is there anyone old enough to remember the Hong Kong flu and how it was compared to the Wuhan flu?
 
Old 04-30-2020, 06:00 AM
 
Location: Lyon, France, Whidbey Island WA
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And yet Hydroxychlorquine and Chloroquine have been shown to have far more adverse effects than desired effects. That and Hydroxychlorquine was largely ineffective as a Covid-19 anti-viral. Remdesivir has shown to work...
And you would be mistaken. Except an R on T syndrome common with a prolonged QTc, I have personally seen them work with and without Zithromax.
 
Old 04-30-2020, 07:09 AM
 
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* This has not been reviewed by the FDA. This device, or concept of this device is currently not indicated for use in the treatment of COVID-19.

NOT yet-- and YES they are working on any and all possibilities- just the POTUS should NOT suggest it because people take it to heart- and actually do it! - hope I don't get deleted again
Trump was 100% right, because Trump only posed the question.....and he never said it was the solution.
The fact this area of treatment is being researched, proves that it wasn't a stupid question.
Trump was 100% right to ask the question.
If anything Trump is a better thinker than Fauci, because he asked about something that is more innovative than other treatment.
Where would we be without Trump? We wouldn't even be aware that such research existed.
 
Old 04-30-2020, 07:22 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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More bodies found in NYC funeral home.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJVjokbG8Eg
 
Old 04-30-2020, 07:22 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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Four trucks containing as many as 60 bodies have been discovered outside a Brooklyn funeral home after someone reported fluids dripping from the trucks, a law enforcement official told CNN.

The Andrew Cleckley Funeral Home home was overwhelmed and ran out of room for bodies, which were awaiting cremation, and used the trucks for storage, a second law enforcement source said Wednesday.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/29/us/bo...ome/index.html
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