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[Donna-501]

Originally Posted by ToyVW55

I wonder how that plays with the earlier theory that there were so many male deaths, compared to female deaths, in China because of the high smoking rate of males in China?

Did you read the link from Vice at the bottom of the page:

The Chinese smoke. Well over half the nation's men are smokers, and the World Health Organization (WHO) estimates that one third of the planet's cigarettes are smoked in China. But earlier this year, Konstantinos Farsalinos noticed something odd: Very few of those hospitalized for the coronavirus in the country appeared to be smokers.

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by MJJersey

He has been tested with the pcr test.

Let me tell you about the PCR test. If the person is acutely infected the PCR test will not detect any virus if the person has a low acute viral load. What about this do you need me to help you understand?

Originally Posted by MJJersey

He doesn’t have coronavirus. I don’t know if he has been antibody tested. But if he’s negative and the people in close contact are negative by pcr then no need for a mask.

Again it does not matter if he's been tested. AGAIN A negative result can also be seen in samples taken during an acute infection prior to IgG seroconversion or the viral load may not be detected by RT-PCR.

With respect to the RT-PCR testing, negative results do not preclude SARS-CoV-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for patient management decisions. Negative results must be combined with clinical observations, patient history, and epidemiological information.

Then you come into the issue with positive patients who are asymptomatic. We are just now beginning to study asymptomatic people who are positive for COVID-19.

There is always a window where a viral test cannot detect the virus in an acute phase viral infection.

Here is LabCorp's FDA EUA package insert for their RT-PCR assay.

LabCorp COVID-19 RT-PCR test EUA Summary

Here is a recent case study disusing the necessity of a CT scan when RT-PCR test produces a false negative.

A case report of COVID-19 with false negative RT-PCR test: necessity of chest CT

Note in the above case study: We report a case of 34-year-old man who was diagnosed as negative for COVID-19 based on the four sequential RT-PCR tests of his pharyngeal swab.

That's very alarming that 4 sequential RT-PCR tests showed this patient to be negative.

[dashrendar4454]

That goodness there's no possibility of political shenanigans behind such statements.

Virus Likely to Keep Coming Back Each Year, Say Top Chinese Scientists

Chinese scientists say the novel coronavirus will not be eradicated, adding to a growing consensus around the world that the pathogen will likely return in waves like the flu.

It’s unlikely the new virus will disappear the way its close cousin SARS did 17 years ago, as it infects some people without causing obvious symptoms like fever. This group of so-called asymptomatic carriers makes it hard to fully contain transmission as they can spread the virus undetected, a group of Chinese viral and medical researchers told reporters in Beijing at a briefing Monday.

With SARS, those infected became seriously ill. Once they were quarantined from others, the virus stopped spreading. In contrast, China is still finding dozens of asymptomatic cases of the coronavirus every day despite bringing its epidemic under control.

“This is very likely to be an epidemic that co-exists with humans for a long time, becomes seasonal and is sustained within human bodies,” said Jin Qi, director of the Institute of Pathogen Biology at China’s top medial research institute, the Chinese Academy of Medical Sciences.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articl...ina-scientists

[rjshae]

Over time nature tends to evolve diseases to be less lethal to the host organisms, just because a living host is a better spreader. So this should get better over time. In addition, once we have corona virus vaccine technology developed, we should then be able to manage it more like we do with influenza. You may need to get an annual shot, particularly when you get older. Every so often though we may experience a more severe strain, just as we do with the flu.

[case44]

Since we haven't had any new Ebola cases in the last few years (and whatever happened to that, anyway?), one would have to think that, once this coronavirus passes (and it will), we won't be hearing about this again, if ever.

[MJJersey]

Originally Posted by Matadora

Let me tell you about the PCR test. If the person is acutely infected the PCR test will not detect any virus if the person has a low acute viral load. What about this do you need me to help you understand?
Again it does not matter if he's been tested. AGAIN A negative result can also be seen in samples taken during an acute infection prior to IgG seroconversion or the viral load may not be detected by RT-PCR.

With respect to the RT-PCR testing, negative results do not preclude SARS-CoV-2 infection and should not be used as the sole basis for patient management decisions. Negative results must be combined with clinical observations, patient history, and epidemiological information.

Then you come into the issue with positive patients who are asymptomatic. We are just now beginning to study asymptomatic people who are positive for COVID-19.

There is always a window where a viral test cannot detect the virus in an acute phase viral infection.

Here is LabCorp's FDA EUA package insert for their RT-PCR assay.

LabCorp COVID-19 RT-PCR test EUA Summary

Here is a recent case study disusing the necessity of a CT scan when RT-PCR test produces a false negative.

A case report of COVID-19 with false negative RT-PCR test: necessity of chest CT

Note in the above case study: We report a case of 34-year-old man who was diagnosed as negative for COVID-19 based on the four sequential RT-PCR tests of his pharyngeal swab.

That's very alarming that 4 sequential RT-PCR tests showed this patient to be negative.

So, after testing negative, having contact with only others who test negative, and having no symptoms, could Pence nevertheless be infected and infect others because he’s not wearing a mask? I suppose. I suppose he could also spontaneously combust and should therefore be required to carry a fire extinguisher for the safety of those around him.

[Mikala43]

Originally Posted by MJJersey

So, after testing negative, having contact with only others who test negative, and having no symptoms, could Pence nevertheless be infected and infect others because he’s not wearing a mask? I suppose. I suppose he could also spontaneously combust and should therefore be required to carry a fire extinguisher for the safety of those around him.

Thing is, that scenario is pretty common, that's been a part of the problem.

[Matadora]

Originally Posted by Mikala43

Thing is, that scenario is pretty common, that's been a part of the problem.

[Sockeye66]

Originally Posted by MJJersey

He has been tested with the pcr test. He doesn’t have coronavirus. I don’t know if he has been antibody tested. But if he’s negative and the people in close contact are negative by pcr then no need for a mask.

Not good practice. He should demonstrate being a good citizen by following best practice. It's safe to bet no one likes wearing a mask do it for the health and safety of everyone or anyone.

[Fisherman99]

Originally Posted by Sockeye66

Not good practice. He should demonstrate being a good citizen by following best practice. It's safe to bet no one likes wearing a mask do it for the health and safety of everyone or anyone.

Absolutely true...many didn't believe when Fauci said we would have 60,000 deaths in America...getting there now. Numbers have been revised upwards now...hope we get through this soon without any more!!