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Old 05-02-2020, 09:58 AM
 
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Obama blamed Bush for his problems for 5 years with no one in the media challenging him.
Examples please.

 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:11 AM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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Oh he tried to replenish them all right but the Republicans blocked him, because you know, black man bad. How Tea Party Budget Battles Left the National Emergency Medical Stockpile Unprepared for Coronavirus | Propublica
You're trying to say that he got no funding at all? Yes he was given funding, what did he do with it?


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Oh, and then of course he gutted the Pandemic Response Team whose job it would have been to insure that we were prepared. TRUMP set up the perfect storm. https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/tr...pandemic-team/
No.

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As The Post reported in 2015, from the Clinton administration to the Obama administration’s second term, the NSC’s staff “had quadrupled in size, to nearly 400 people.” That is why Trump began streamlining the NSC staff in 2017.
One such move at the NSC was to create the counterproliferation and biodefense directorate, which was the result of consolidating three directorates into one, given the obvious overlap between arms control and nonproliferation, weapons of mass destruction terrorism, and global health and biodefense. It is this reorganization that critics have misconstrued or intentionally misrepresented. If anything, the combined directorate was stronger because related expertise could be commingled. ....But it has left the biodefense staff unaffected...
"No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...sponse-office/



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But sure, Blame Obama. Blame China. Blame Democrats. Blame anyone except for the very worst president ever elected.
Where was Obama and the CDC when the ebola case was discovered in TX? Oh yeah, all the CDC did was to sent the hospital a small worthless pamphlet about treating ebola

The CDC failed to send someone knowledgeable about handling the disease. They failed to provide the correct PPE to keep the hospital staff safe. Instead of having hazmat suits the staff had to use paper masks and gowns .. and use tape to cover any of their exposed body parts. That resulted in two nurses contracting ebola. The CDC then allowed one of the nurses to fly on a commercial flight from TX to OH instead of requiring that she self-quarantine. When she was in OH she started coming down with ebola symptoms. She contacted the CDC and informed them of it and they let her fly on a commercial flight from OH to TX, while they knew she was infectious with ebola.

A doctor in NY, who was symptomatic for ebola, was allowed to hobnob all around NYC.
A nurse, who was supposed to self quarantine and was stamping her feet over it, was allowed to keep a town hostage with her constant threats of going out among the townspeople.

All in all the ebola in the US only impacted a small number of people, yet Obama failed to handle it. Thankfully ebola does not have anywhere near the spread rate of covid-19, if it had then we would have had a serious problem.




And on a side note..
I often see people compare the death rate from H1N1, under Obama, to the death rate of covid-19, under Trump. It is wrong to compare stats of those two diseases.
H!N1 mainly hit young healthy people, whose bodies were often healthy enough to fight off the diseases.
Covid-19 mainly hits older people with existing health problems. whose bodies are not healthy enough to fight off the disease.
There is no comparison and anyone who tries to compare the stats from those two diseases should be called out for it.
 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:14 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hammer Time View Post
Obama blamed Bush for his problems for 5 years with no one in the media challenging him.
Proof? We'll wait
 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:21 AM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Cliffnotes.....

The Trump administration is a failed presidency and his response to a global pandemic and the impending GREATEST DEPRESSION after being in office for 3.5 years has been to blame the previous administration. Perhaps Trump should spend less time on TWITTER, at ego stroking rallies and the golf course and more time on running the country

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Originally Posted by berdee View Post
You're trying to say that he got no funding at all? Yes he was given funding, what did he do with it?


No.

"No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...sponse-office/



Where was Obama and the CDC when the ebola case was discovered in TX? Oh yeah, all the CDC did was to sent the hospital a small worthless pamphlet about treating ebola

The CDC failed to send someone knowledgeable about handling the disease. They failed to provide the correct PPE to keep the hospital staff safe. Instead of having hazmat suits the staff had to use paper masks and gowns .. and use tape to cover any of their exposed body parts. That resulted in two nurses contracting ebola. The CDC then allowed one of the nurses to fly on a commercial flight from TX to OH instead of requiring that she self-quarantine. When she was in OH she started coming down with ebola symptoms. She contacted the CDC and informed them of it and they let her fly on a commercial flight from OH to TX, while they knew she was infectious with ebola.

A doctor in NY, who was symptomatic for ebola, was allowed to hobnob all around NYC.
A nurse, who was supposed to self quarantine and was stamping her feet over it, was allowed to keep a town hostage with her constant threats of going out among the townspeople.

All in all the ebola in the US only impacted a small number of people, yet Obama failed to handle it. Thankfully ebola does not have anywhere near the spread rate of covid-19, if it had then we would have had a serious problem.




And on a side note..
I often see people compare the death rate from H1N1, under Obama, to the death rate of covid-19, under Trump. It is wrong to compare stats of those two diseases.
H!N1 mainly hit young healthy people, whose bodies were often healthy enough to fight off the diseases.
Covid-19 mainly hits older people with existing health problems. whose bodies are not healthy enough to fight off the disease.
There is no comparison and anyone who tries to compare the stats from those two diseases should be called out for it.
 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Lightbulb tRump blames Obama...

... at every opportunity. His go-to move.

It's always a hit with his Trumplings.

This thread provides ample proof.

 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by berdee View Post
You're trying to say that he got no funding at all? Yes he was given funding, what did he do with it?


No.

"No, the White House didn’t ‘dissolve’ its pandemic response office. I was there."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...sponse-office/



Where was Obama and the CDC when the ebola case was discovered in TX? Oh yeah, all the CDC did was to sent the hospital a small worthless pamphlet about treating ebola

The CDC failed to send someone knowledgeable about handling the disease. They failed to provide the correct PPE to keep the hospital staff safe. Instead of having hazmat suits the staff had to use paper masks and gowns .. and use tape to cover any of their exposed body parts. That resulted in two nurses contracting ebola. The CDC then allowed one of the nurses to fly on a commercial flight from TX to OH instead of requiring that she self-quarantine. When she was in OH she started coming down with ebola symptoms. She contacted the CDC and informed them of it and they let her fly on a commercial flight from OH to TX, while they knew she was infectious with ebola.

A doctor in NY, who was symptomatic for ebola, was allowed to hobnob all around NYC.
A nurse, who was supposed to self quarantine and was stamping her feet over it, was allowed to keep a town hostage with her constant threats of going out among the townspeople.

All in all the ebola in the US only impacted a small number of people, yet Obama failed to handle it. Thankfully ebola does not have anywhere near the spread rate of covid-19, if it had then we would have had a serious problem.
...t.

TRump Quote: Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.


Must be hard supporting Trump where this is always a quote handy to contradict whatever point you are trying to make.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...87965302091776
 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:42 AM
 
Location: Shaker Heights, OH
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Originally Posted by Vector1 View Post
Not to defend Trump since those with hate and disdain for him will never consider reason, but didn't Obama/Biden have Dr. Fauci and others in place when H1N1 pandemic swept across our country?

I ask because one administration cannot be held to account for unforeseen things. But once they experience such an crisis like Obama/Biden did in 2009/10, shouldn't that administration put the knowledge learned into a game plan for a future pandemic crisis?

I am not blaming Obama/Biden, but since everyone is pilling on Trump, why can't any of you see how this semi-related virus could have been better prepared for by the CDC from 2009 to 2016?

Also, I find it funny how supporters of Obama blamed Bush for 8 years when Obama had a sluggish/anemic economy. Yet, when Trump came along and improved the economy, they wanted to say it was all because of Obama.


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Obama created a National Pandemic Team in the White House. Trump ended it. Obama foresaw some kind of pandemic and tried to prepare for it. If he was still in office, that team would have been on this from the get go.
Trump had 3 years to improve the stockpile of masks and ventilators and did nothing.
Obama cannot be blamed for not having the testing for a virus that didn't exist when he was president.

Oh, and Obama inherited Bush's great recession and turned it around. Trump inherited Obama's improving economy and now has a Great Depression on his hands w/ more jobs lost than have been gained since 2009 in just a matter of months. Trump's economy sucks.
 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Harry S. Truman said "The buck stops here", and most leaders (true leaders) understand that statement and live by it. Donald Trump says " I had nothing to do with it, the blame should be put on (insert name here).

Never, ever, have I heard Donald Trump, in the millions of words he has uttered, ever say " I made a mistake" or " I will take the blame for that". If he ever did, I would have a heart attack.
 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Homeless
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Originally Posted by Vacanegro View Post
TRump Quote: Leadership: Whatever happens, you're responsible. If it doesn't happen, you're responsible.


Must be hard supporting Trump where this is always a quote handy to contradict whatever point you are trying to make.


https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...87965302091776
He was talking about himself only Obama.
 
Old 05-02-2020, 10:55 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
FACT:People were complain about a lack of masks and ventilators and blaming TRUMP.


Misinformed -- yes.
Un-educated -- perhaps.
But we aren't talking about the masks and ventilators.......you are confused ...

The title of the thread specifically addresses Trump claim that Obama didn't replenish the TESTS...not masks or ventilators.

You did not address mask/ventilator

WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TESTS......
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