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Old 05-01-2020, 01:33 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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Originally Posted by blahblahyoutoo View Post
these lines aren't fictional. different countries and even states have different laws and I have no businesses telling how someone else should run their country.

your analogies are not even remotely close to being an accurate comparison.
there are many injustices happening around the world today and it's not our job to take care of all of them.
unless mongolians cry out for help, and we have the means to help, then we should look into it. i'm sick of us being the world police.
Who is this "we"?

I'm talking about you personally.

An involuntary third party is restricting property rights, freedom of association, and freedom of movement on individuals based on statute and not a prior aggressive act.

You don't see anything wrong with that?

 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:34 PM
 
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Translation: They raped my neighbor's wife. Not mine. I don't care.

C'mon folks. I know 99.9% of you are statists/socialists but have you no sense of decency left after the indoctrination centers/corporate media drilled it out of you?
correct. I have no obligation to run in there guns blazing to be a hero.
I can call the cops, or I can elect to help if I do choose to.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:36 PM
 
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Who is this "we"?

I'm talking about you personally.

An involuntary third party is restricting property rights, freedom of association, and freedom of movement on individuals based on statute and not a prior aggressive act.

You don't see anything wrong with that?
correct, it's their citizens' responsibility to fight for what they believe is right. not mine.

you're making a big assumption that what you think is right is best for them.
once you change that mindset, and we get our noses out of other people's business, the world will be a better place.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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correct. I have no obligation to run in there guns blazing to be a hero.
I can call the cops, or I can elect to help if I do choose to.
Do you find the act itself to be immoral?
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:45 PM
 
Location: Heart of the desert lands
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They were going to ban them anyway, it was already on the agenda long before this latest incident. However, this recent mass murder of 22 people by a gun nut who was using illegally sourced prohibited firearms smuggled in from America was the last straw to break the camel's back so now that agenda has been pushed to the forefront.

The vast majority of Canadians are in full agreement with the ban. Canadians who own ordinary, practical firearms for ordinary, practical hunting and target practice purposes don't have to give up their guns. But the general consensus is that Canadians don't glorify firearms and aren't part of the American gun culture that worships weapons of war that are designed to be used against humans and they don't want firearms like that being allowed in the country.

The ban of those kinds of firearms in Canada should not be of any concern to Americans who are law abiding citizens, since it won't effect them or their American 2nd amendment. The Americans that the Canadian ban might have a negative effect on would be those who are already engaged in dedicated criminal activities re: firearms smuggling into Canada.

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Clearly the logic of a ban on these types of firearms being sold in Canada, in response to an extremely horrific and rare crime in Canada will never happen again because it will completely stop all illegal smuggling of these types of firearms into Canada. Correct?

Darn, problem solved.

Or, illegal smuggling of these types of firearms into Canada will actually increase due to the ban.


Wait, what?
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:46 PM
 
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correct. I have no obligation to run in there guns blazing to be a hero.
I can call the cops, or I can elect to help if I do choose to.
Just remember, SCOTUS has ruled the police have no obligation to protect anyone.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Here we go again.

There's a horrific mass murder in Nova Scotia, so the politicians pass laws that wouldn't have prevented it. In part because it wasn't the gun's fault. And also because the people who would obey the new laws, are law-abiding citizens who weren't the problem. The people who already violate laws freely and WOULD shoot groups of innocents, are not the ones who would suddenly start obeying a new law.

Unfortunately for the innocent people getting shot, Canada doesn't have a 2nd amendment or anything similar in its Constitution. So when some whacko starts disobeying laws against murder, the whacko doesn't need to worry about anybody stopping him until long after he's had enough time to rack up a huge body count as he wanted. Police likely won't show up until there are a few dozen dead scattered around. The whacko often isn't worried about getting killed five minutes later, as long as he can leave headlines for weeks about himself.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...cotia-shooting

Trudeau announces Canada is banning assault-style weapons
Move comes after murder of 22 people in worst mass shooting in Canada’s history

Published on Fri 1 May 2020 11.40 EDT

Canada has banned assault-style weapons following the murder of 22 people in the worst mass shooting in the country’s history, Justin Trudeau announced on Friday.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police said on Tuesday that the Nova Scotia gunman, Gabriel Wortman, had been armed with two semi-automatic rifles and several semi-automatic pistols. Supt Darren Campbell said that one of the guns could be described “military-style assault rifle”.

The new ban would probably not have stopped Wortman from obtaining his weapons: he did not have a license to possess or purchase firearms, and police have said they believe the guns were obtained illegally in Canada and the United States.

The prime minister announced a two-year “amnesty period” to allow gun owners to comply with the law. The ban covers 1,500 models and variants of firearms.

“Justin Trudeau is using the current pandemic and the immediate emotion of the horrific attack in Nova Scotia to push the Liberals’ ideological agenda to make major firearms policy changes,” said the Conservative leader, Andrew Scheer, following Trudeau’s comments. “Taking firearms away from law-abiding citizens does nothing to stop dangerous criminals who obtain their guns illegally.”



No wonder I have been getting inquiries from Canada all day.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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They should just make murder more illegal.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Ontario, Canada
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Assault rifles are for soldiers and, apparently, frightened Yankees.

Canadian civilians have no need for them.
 
Old 05-01-2020, 01:49 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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Assault rifles are for soldiers and, apparently, frightened Yankees.

Canadian civilians have no need for them.
They aren't Assault Rifles. They are SEMI AUTOMATIC sporting rifles like all the others.

Jut keep hiding under the bed. The U.S. will protect you.
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