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View Poll Results: I will allow myself to be vaccinated for the coronavirus if a vaccine is ever developed.
Yes 51 64.56%
No 28 35.44%
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:25 PM
 
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You're the only one saying that and mixing up things.

What WAS said is that Bill Gates is using the ID tattoo to determine IF you were vaccinated or not.

THAT is what we're talking about.

sonnymarkjiz

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And Bill Gates wants this vaccine to have a technological tattoo that can be scanned. You'd have to have it to do anything in society.

All of the Christians are going to raise hell for that one. It's eerily similar to the Mark of the Beast thing.


So this thread is about the vaccine. And all of a sudden you're all worried about some digital tattoo, which no governmental agency is advocating, and worried about Bill Gates, who has no role in this whole pandemic except to donate money to research.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:27 PM
 
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Apostates, you mean.
Yes. Only snake handlers who speak in tongues are true Christians.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Washington, DC
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sonnymarkjiz

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And Bill Gates wants this vaccine to have a technological tattoo that can be scanned. You'd have to have it to do anything in society.

All of the Christians are going to raise hell for that one. It's eerily similar to the Mark of the Beast thing.


So this thread is about the vaccine. And all of a sudden you're all worried about some digital tattoo, which no governmental agency is advocating, and worried about Bill Gates, who has no role in this whole pandemic except to donate money to research.
Dude, Bill Gates LITERALLY talked about this. THAT is why we're talking about it.

https://youtu.be/YXIzraesRcc

Pay attention. It's not a "conspiracy" or "fake", this stuff is literally being discussed. This is WHY we're talking about it.

It's like you won't admit you made a mistake and keep trying to move the goalposts in this topic.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:30 PM
 
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Yes. Only snake handlers who speak in tongues are true Christians.
If they do not believe in the rapture, they do not believe the Bible. If they reject the word of God, they are apostates.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:34 PM
 
Location: equator
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No administration cares about you.

Once people learn that, they can begin learning to see what is true.
True for the U.S. In other countries the government actually does care about its citizens.

Shocking , I know.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:39 PM
 
Location: equator
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Many of us are older than you are, but the big difference is that we have some wisdom to show for our gray, thinning hair.
And no polio.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:42 PM
 
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True for the U.S. In other countries the government actually does care about its citizens.
Oh, that's just adorable.
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Old 05-04-2020, 12:59 PM
 
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First of all, most Christians don't believe in the "rapture". People act like that is some accepted doctrine, but it's really something propagated by Hal Lindsey to sell books, and accepted by fringe believers. Not a mainline Christian doctrine at all.

Second, if you have a link to Bill Gates actually saying he wants to put ID chips in the vaccine, I'd be interested in seeing it. So far all I've seen are far right websites pumping this story.
I never said most Christians believe in the rapture.

It was in an interview that was posted on this forum. The tattoo mark on the skin can be scanned to show you have the vaccine.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:15 PM
 
Location: The High Desert
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Many of us are older than you are, but the big difference is that we have some wisdom to show for our gray, thinning hair.
Brilliant comeback but there is no evidence of any wisdom to back it up. My gray hair is getting pretty long, actually. And I took the vaccine, even though I didn't want to, it worked and I'm here to tell you about it.
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Old 05-04-2020, 01:50 PM
 
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Flu vaccine is unique in that it changes year to year. In May, the CDC will review the previous season's epidemiological data and determine which strains. Some years they get it right, others not so much.

The average vaccine takes about 10 years to develop. The fastest ever was about 3-4 years. I have no intrinsic issues with taking a new drug but I don't like taking drugs who haven't been on the market for at least 2 years. It takes that long to get all the minor side effects. I would however see this as a half baked vaccine. Vaccines need long trials to confirm immunity. I wouldn't be concerned about side effects because most occur fairly quickly after immunization. My concern is with effectiveness. Varicella vaccine was released with only 1 recommended shot. After collecting data for several years after release, they determined the need for a second shot.

There was a Supreme Court case about a century ago in the aftermath of a Small Pox epidemic. They ruled it was constitutional to require immunizations
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