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Old 05-05-2020, 02:47 PM
 
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Where did I say its killing penniless folks? I think YOU are the one overblowing what I said. Show me where I said that. Please quote where I said it's killing penniless folks.

The point I am making with it, if you think about low income essential workers, most of those don't have healthcare insurance. So in a time of crisis, those low income essential workers are being exposed the most day in and day out, are the most vulnerable to catching it, yet if they do they don't have healthcare.

It's not even in the low-income folks though. My brother-in-law lost his job in January. My sister and her daughter were on his insurance plan which was now lost because he lost his job. My sister is a small business owner. So on one income she was paying close to $1k a month to over them all. That was okay because his unemployment would be temporary and they figured by March or April he would get a new job. Well the pandemic hit and guess what? Her business has tanked, he can't get a job because the economy has tanked, so now her and him are uninsured to save money, and they are making sure to keep my niece with insurance that cost $500 a month. How is that feasible for anyone especially during a time like this? There should be some type of public healthcare insurance that is made affordable even free for those who are struggling.
Your words:

“How our healthcare system is flawed and failing the poor.”
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Old 05-05-2020, 02:52 PM
 
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I ignore people who aren’t intelligent enough to recognize bias and dishonesty in the media.

Fake news is real and so is your condition known as TDS.

I’m well rested so won’t bother with ending this with a yawn.....
Yawn.

Yeah, I understand bias, ideology and whatnot. I also know how to use my own words. “TDS.” Wow, so original. So incredibly appropriate for this precise situation. A true thinker here!
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Old 05-05-2020, 02:55 PM
 
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And I don't mean in economic or military might, I mean in social and political infrastructure. I actually am a little scared for the US in the sense that it really has revealed some big issues that have just been swept over for decades, that everyone know about, but no one is doing anything about it. The pandemic has put a spotlight on:

-How our healthcare system is flawed and failing the poor.
-How expensive higher education is (hitting students hard on what they are paying for an online education)
-How divided we are. If you look at the blue states vs. red states there is a difference in the attitude of how they handled the pandemic. Add to that the protests. It really shows we are pretty divided. Also, each state doing their own thing shows we are more fragmented than anything else.
-How it's too much of a dog eat dog country. My cousin who owns a small business was saying how hard it was to get help from the government during this time, yet small businesses in Canada are getting government money to help fund them for 70% of their expenses.

It just seems like this pandemic has put the spotlight on some of the US weaknesses that has been affecting our society. I know no country is perfect, and this is an unprecedented event, but it's really sad to see how our country has taken a hit in quality of life and how we have been exposed during this pandemic. I blame both parties for getting us here and I also blame many citizens of this great country whom only think of themselves and not their community.

More people care about sharing and talking about Tiger King than they do about their communities.
Yes, the country is falling apart as Europe and the rest of the developed world eclipses us. Our fetishism on the market, which has, through flawed policy, been allowed to become out of balance with the counterweight of regulation is destroying us and allowing our country to rot within.
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Old 05-05-2020, 02:56 PM
 
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Each state needs to do its own thing
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:00 PM
 
Location: Hallandale Beach, FL
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Your words:

“How our healthcare system is flawed and failing the poor.”
Again, where did I say killing? Your words: ."..breaking down and killing penniless folks with Coronavirus.

You had to add that in there for dramatic effects. I literally wrote one sentence about how the healthcare system is failing and you went on mini-rant about it (as if healthcare hasn't been a hot button issue already) and fabricating that I put "killing" in there. So please put your money where your mouth is and show me where did I say "killing pennliess folks"? Please show me.

Put that one sentence I wrote side by side to your response. Now who is overblowing things again? You are the one that went on about the fake media, facebook, blah blah. Sensitive much?

Don't worry reporting you to the mods for fabricating (against the rules).
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:01 PM
 
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It’s capitalism. It doesn’t work unless you are generating a ton of money.

We could easily implement a Canadian safety net in these times but we would rather give money to corporations than people.

Our weakness is greed.
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:05 PM
 
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It’s capitalism. It doesn’t work unless you are generating a ton of money.

We could easily implement a Canadian safety net in these times but we would rather give money to corporations than people.

Our weakness is greed.
Capitalism works if balanced with regulation. We see it all over the world from the European nations to other 'new' nations such as Australia and Canada. With a free market balanced with regulation to create fair competition and prevent the worst abuses coupled with appropriate taxation to fund an advanced social safety net other developed nations have created prosperous, healthy places to live for practically all citizens.

The United States could easily replicate that with small tweaks in our system to undo some of the worst abuses and accumulation of wealth, which is threatening the stability of our system. The US currently is performing dismally with regards to all metrics, including health outcomes, poverty, crime and imprisonment, and education.

There is simply no excuse why the US is not number one in all these areas and more and it is not only a national disgrace, but also threatening our quality of life and security going forward.
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:14 PM
 
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Again, where did I say killing? Your words: ."..breaking down and killing penniless folks with Coronavirus.

You had to add that in there for dramatic effects. I literally wrote one sentence about how the healthcare system is failing and you went on mini-rant about it (as if healthcare hasn't been a hot button issue already) and fabricating that I put "killing" in there. So please put your money where your mouth is and show me where did I say "killing pennliess folks"? Please show me.

Put that one sentence I wrote side by side to your response. Now who is overblowing things again? You are the one that went on about the fake media, facebook, blah blah. Sensitive much?

Don't worry reporting you to the mods for fabricating (against the rules).
Oh pray tell what you meant by that statement then...

You know EXACTLY what you were attempting to imply and now your feelings are hurt because you got called out on just parroting MSM fake news lies.

Cry me a river.
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:14 PM
 
Location: King County, WA
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What it's showing is how isolationist this administration really is.
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Old 05-05-2020, 03:17 PM
 
Location: Morrison, CO
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About half of America has become a nation of scared SHEEP. The Progressive, Democrat Nanny State half.
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