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Old 05-12-2020, 09:28 AM
 
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Same with Hispanics. It’s all around but the focus is almost always on black people as usual.
White around 25%, Hispanic around 50%, black around 70%. Focus on blacks is more due to their violent crime rates. the reasons for it, and how to bring it down.
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Old 05-12-2020, 09:36 AM
 
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The focus is only due to the exceptionally high rate, comparatively:

Unwed Births by Race/Ethnicity

If the rate weren't such an extreme outlier, it wouldn't be an issue. Many people are concerned because single-parent households are correlated strongly with childhood poverty.

Children in Single-Parent Families by Race/Ethnicity:

Black: 65%
American Indian: 53%
Hispanic: 41%
White: 24%
Asian: 15%
US Average: 35%

Data Source: Population Reference Bureau, analysis of data from the U.S. Census Bureau, Census 2000 Supplementary Survey, 2001 Supplementary Survey, 2002 through 2018 American Community Survey.

https://datacenter.kidscount.org/dat...185,13/432,431
The poorest children in the U.S. are Hispanic. It has been this way for years now. Also the Hispanic out of wedlock rate is over 50 percent now.
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Old 05-12-2020, 09:45 AM
 
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White around 25%, Hispanic around 50%, black around 70%. Focus on blacks is more due to their violent crime rates. the reasons for it, and how to bring it down.
Make up your minds. One person says it’s due to poverty and other says is violence. Reality is that the U.S. has been obsessed with “black people” since the first African was brought over. They were obsessed with African religions so they stamped them out and forced Christianity. They were obsessed with their languages and cultural traditions so they stamped them out by force. There would be far more cultural marriage traditions had that not been done as over 40 different African groups were brought. Those traditions last. Now you want to claim they care about black family and how to bring down crime rates? LOL. They should have treated the crack epidemic like the opioid epidemic rather than dragging black men out of their homes, away from their families and throwing them in prison.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...-we-ncna842426
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:15 AM
 
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The poorest children in the U.S. are Hispanic. It has been this way for years now.
Incorrect. A higher percentage of Black kids are in poverty than Hispanic kids.

Percentage of Children Who Are Impoverished or Low-Income, by Race/Ethnicity
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:26 AM
 
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Incorrect. A higher percentage of Black kids are in poverty than Hispanic kids.

Percentage of Children Who Are Impoverished or Low-Income, by Race/Ethnicity
Correct. My post said poor, not just lower income.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usa...m/amp/37977173

And it started around 2011.

https://www.cnn.com/2011/09/29/us/la...rty/index.html
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:35 AM
 
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Make up your minds. One person says it’s due to poverty and other says is violence. Reality is that the U.S. has been obsessed with “black people” since the first African was brought over. They were obsessed with African religions so they stamped them out and forced Christianity. They were obsessed with their languages and cultural traditions so they stamped them out by force. There would be far more cultural marriage traditions had that not been done as over 40 different African groups were brought. Those traditions last. Now you want to claim they care about black family and how to bring down crime rates? LOL. They should have treated the crack epidemic like the opioid epidemic rather than dragging black men out of their homes, away from their families and throwing them in prison.

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinio...-we-ncna842426
One thing I notice.

Every 20-30 years the narratives towards blacks usually change. But it’s still the overarching themes of black inferiority.
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:41 AM
 
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That article does not say what you assert. Furthermore, the link to the chart I posted used the exact same data source which shows these Statistics:

Percentage of Children Who Are Impoverished or Low-Income, by Race/Ethnicity

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And it started around 2011.

https://www.cnn.com/2011/09/29/us/la...rty/index.html
Ah... I see why you're confused and therefore, wrong. The CNN article refers to the "largest group." As in numbers. Hispanics are a larger percentage of the US population than are Blacks. You're making the same mistake made by many of those who don't understand statistics. The fact is that Black children have a higher rate of Poverty/Low-Income (includes 50%, 100%, and 200% of federal poverty level) than Hispanic children. And it's instructive to see the significant differences in the rates at 50% of the Federal Poverty Level. Looking at that statistic, alone... children who are in abject poverty... The percentage of Black kids in abject poverty is 50% higher than the percentage of Hispanic kids.

Again...

Percentage of Children Who Are Impoverished or Low-Income, by Race/Ethnicity
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:51 AM
 
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That article does not say what you assert. Furthermore, the link to the chart I posted used the exact same data source which shows these Statistics:

Percentage of Children Who Are Impoverished or Low-Income, by Race/Ethnicity

Ah... I see why you're confused and therefore, wrong. The CNN article refers to the "largest group." As in numbers. Hispanics are a larger percentage of the US population than are Blacks. You're making the same mistake made by many of those who don't understand statistics. The fact is that Black children have a higher rate of Poverty/Low-Income (includes 50%, 100%, and 200% of poverty rate) than Hispanic children. And it's instructive to see the significant differences in the rates at 50% of the Federal Poverty Level. Looking at that statistic, alone... children who are in abject poverty... The percentage of Black kids in abject poverty is 50% higher than the percentage of Hispanic kids.

Again...

Percentage of Children Who Are Impoverished or Low-Income, by Race/Ethnicity
The CNN article gives percentages.

Calling it "a negative milestone" in Hispanics' explosive growth in the United States, the Pew Hispanic Center study said in 2010, 37.3% of poor children in the U.S. were Hispanic, compared with 30.5% white and 26.6% black.

There was only a 3 percent difference in the Black and Hispanic populations but an over 10 percent difference in poverty among children. You’re making a mistake in your comparison of the statistics. However, looking again, your stats are more recent so perhaps you are correct. However, for purposes of this discussion, if you are speaking about childhood poverty, why is it still so high among Hispanics if you’re pointing to the reason being out of wedlock rates? Tbh, I definitely believe single-parenthood is a major reason for childhood poverty but this is making me rethink the weight but on it to some extent because the Hispanic population should have never surpassed the black population in childhood poverty at any point in time.
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Old 05-12-2020, 10:58 AM
 
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One thing I notice.

Every 20-30 years the narratives towards blacks usually change. But it’s still the overarching themes of black inferiority.
Exactly. This is my point. This obsession with attempting to make “blacks” look inferior has been focus since the inception of this country, in order to excuse the mistreatment of people of African origin. IMO, it took a long time for some black people to begin to internalize that and also some rejected the imposed culture whether positive or negative. It seems marriage may have gotten caught up in that. It will take time to change. Perhaps with the influx of various African groups that have their marriage traditions in tact, there will be a greater focus on marriage and building a family in a more productive order.
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Old 05-12-2020, 11:02 AM
 
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The CNN article gives percentages.
Again, you're failing to understand statistics. Percentage of a whole is not the same as percentage within a specific demographic. Like I said, the only reason the number of poor Hispanic kids is larger than that of Black kids is because Hispanics are a larger percent of the US population than Blacks.

The FACT is that there's a significant difference in the rates at 50% of the Federal Poverty Level. Looking at that statistic, alone... children who are in abject poverty... The percentage of Black kids in abject poverty is 50% higher than the percentage of Hispanic kids.

Percentage of Children Who Are Impoverished or Low-Income, by Race/Ethnicity
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