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Old 05-15-2020, 11:41 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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Originally Posted by Ohiogirl81 View Post
What part of the Constitution is this cop upholding by using his uniform as a bully pulpit? Please be specific.
His sworn responsibility is to uphold the US Constitution and therefore Americans' Constitutional Rights. That isn't a "bully pulpit" topic; it's actually a legal obligation. What do you not understand about that?
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:16 PM
 
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His sworn responsibility is to uphold the US Constitution and therefore Americans' Constitutional Rights. That isn't a "bully pulpit" topic; it's actually a legal obligation. What do you not understand about that?

Your rights are derived from the Constitution and interpreted by the Judicial system, not by some street cop. His "legal obligation" is to enforce the law until such a time as said law is overturned. Government 101. What do you not understand about that?
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:36 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I'm not following your thinking on either of these posts. What do police unions or hands up don't shoot have do do with this?

I sure hope this is not just another police bashing thread in disguise.

Maybe you can solve the disconnect between the people & the police state?
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:40 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Your rights are derived from the Constitution and interpreted by the Judicial system, not by some street cop. His "legal obligation" is to enforce the law until such a time as said law is overturned. Government 101. What do you not understand about that?
So, you're saying, that is what the Nuremberg trails are for.
"I was just following orders", was the entire defense in that case too.
How did that turn out for them?
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Old 05-15-2020, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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So, you're saying, that is what the Nuremberg trails are for.
"I was just following orders", was the entire defense in that case too.
How did that turn out for them?
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Old 05-15-2020, 02:10 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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One thing for sure, COPS hate it when they lose their Qualified Immunity and get sued personally for their unconstitutional actions under the color of law.
When it will come out of their bank account and not the city or the state, they are employed by. They tend to make videos like these warning fellow Blue-Liners of the liability.
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Old 05-15-2020, 03:23 PM
 
Location: A safe distance from San Francisco
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Maybe you can solve the disconnect between the people & the police state?
No, I can't solve it, but the people collectively can. Stop electing unconscionably unprincipled political leaders.

Much as it would be helpful for more and more cops to speak out as this one did, to turn around and attempt to lay the blame for Gestapo actions by clueless and soulless governors at the feet of individual police officers is....well....inexplicable.

A good thread created with a badly misguided underlying motivation.
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Old 05-15-2020, 03:25 PM
 
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The officer is a public servant. He doesn't get to do whatever he wants. He should move to a red state.
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Old 05-15-2020, 03:54 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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What "personal agenda?" He, other LEOs, and local/state/federal officials, elected or not, swear an oath to uphold the US Constitution. Actually doing so is not a "personal agenda."
HE is making the video, therefore it's personal, let him do it on his own time off of city property. I watched it again, he said officer's are violating people's Constitutional rights by arresting them. Nowhere did I read any of them were a mandatory arrest, so it is the officer's choice to arrest or cite, if he does not wish to, so be it.

He is giving a legal opinion, that is fine, but don't use government resources to promote it.
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Old 05-15-2020, 04:05 PM
 
Location: Somewhere gray and damp, close to the West Coast
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Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. The officer is a public servant. He doesn't get to do whatever he wants. He should move to a red state.

I'm guessing he could move to one of the red counties in Washington State -- one that has a constitutional sheriff, who would very likely hire him as a deputy.

Oh, and those moving expenses? Currently $409,595 of it will come from the people via GoFundMe. How about that?
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