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Old 05-25-2020, 05:31 PM
 
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No, if other nations destroy their environment and enslave their workers to produce goods for us it’s a good thing for us.
I thought you said you supported freedom and liberty for all participants in the market?
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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What was the word on the street at the time, especially from non political people.

I'm not talking about the government or the politically minded, just yourselves and the average people you know.

Did they support it or not?

Has their (or yours) opinion on the matter changed since?
NAFTA was a Reagan initiative.

Bush 1 signed it, subject to approval by Congress.

Congress passed it. Clinton signed it.

I trend free trade.
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:06 PM
 
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I voted for Ross, enough said.
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Did people support NAFTA back in 1994?
Sure, especially conservatives who came up with the idea in the first place. Free market capitalism was popular. Not so much anymore, especially among Trump supporters.
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:28 PM
 
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https://www.reuters.com/article/us-t...-idUSKBN1E83DB

Republican Goernors support NAFTA.
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Old 05-25-2020, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Manchester NH
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NAFTA was a Reagan initiative.

Bush 1 signed it, subject to approval by Congress.

Congress passed it. Clinton signed it.

I trend free trade.
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I agree republicans were more fervent free traders.

For example the 'populist' tea party movement was made up of people who thought anti-free trade/ anti-globalism was the work of tyrants.

The problem is that the side that is supposed to pro-labor was all the sudden for cheap slave labor in exchange for more innovation or 'dynamism'.

I don't like democrats, but even as republicans claim to be changing, I won't forget what they did.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:04 AM
 
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LOL Bill had the female vote locked up.



And all the bums on welfare.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:06 AM
 
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And all the bums on welfare.

And a weak opponent.
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Old 05-26-2020, 12:10 AM
 
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What was the word on the street at the time, especially from non political people.

I'm not talking about the government or the politically minded, just yourselves and the average people you know.

Did they support it or not?

Has their (or yours) opinion on the matter changed since?
I did, and I was wrong. I agreed with Bill Clinton, Newt Gingrich and Rush Limbaugh, when I should have listened to Ross Perot, Pat Buchanan and Jesse Jackson. They were right.
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Old 05-26-2020, 05:42 AM
 
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NAFTA was a Reagan initiative.

Bush 1 signed it, subject to approval by Congress.

Congress passed it. Clinton signed it.

I trend free trade.
"Free Trade" I can understand. Off-shoring to places with borderline slave labor, no environmental laws, patent theft etc. not so much.

Blue collar laborers lost the most from NAFTA, others like myself got stuff cheaper without taking the income hit so I guess winning depends where you sit at the table.

The irony of course was that when my jobless uncles that were straight ticket dems revolted over the off-shoring and on-shoring (illegal labor) they suddenly got branded "racists" and a lot of young people and unaffected suburban professionals gobbled it up, because those that were upset...they're uneducated and um...white.
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