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These people are not the President speaking lies, re-tweeting other people's lies (an endorsement), intentionally spreading misinformation, repeating debunked conspiracy theories, threatening people, inciting others to threaten people, repeating threats by others (again, an endorsement), verbally attacking people, spreading false rumors and innuendo, applying disparaging names to critics or opponents, and disparaging allies and foreign countries. This is all done in his official and immune capacity as President, not liable or accountable for his statements while in office. He is uniquely privileged in this way. He is not immune to correction or fact checking, however. So now he is trying to push the envelope, once again, to broaden his privileges by silencing criticism or fact checking. This by threatening action against social platforms that he abuses. They should just shut him down. That really is to his benefit because he is his own worst enemy when tweeting every day. He is too stupid and narcissistic to realize it.
These people are not the President speaking lies, re-tweeting other people's lies (an endorsement), intentionally spreading misinformation, repeating debunked conspiracy theories, threatening people, inciting others to threaten people, repeating threats by others (again, an endorsement), verbally attacking people, spreading false rumors and innuendo, applying disparaging names to critics or opponents, and disparaging allies and foreign countries. This is all done in his official and immune capacity as President, not liable or accountable for his statements while in office. He is uniquely privileged in this way. He is not immune to correction or fact checking, however. So now he is trying to push the envelope, once again, to broaden his privileges by silencing criticism or fact checking. This by threatening action against social platforms that he abuses. They should just shut him down. That really is to his benefit because he is his own worst enemy when tweeting every day. He is too stupid and narcissistic to realize it.
Take a guess what happens if Twitter bans him or shuts him down...the next day the IRS is on their doorstep to do an internal audit, next day, its another federal agency doing an audit, etc etc. He can make their lives miserable if he wants to and Im sure Twitter doesnt want the feds digging into everything. LOL
Take a guess what happens if Twitter bans him or shuts him down...the next day the IRS is on their doorstep to do an internal audit, next day, its another federal agency doing an audit, etc etc. He can make their lives miserable if he wants to and Im sure Twitter doesnt want the feds digging into everything. LOL
He's one of their biggest sources of engagement. The positives far outweigh the negatives for Jack.
I am sure Twitter regrets not banning him back then.
If they enforced their rules equally across all accounts and Trump was banned in 2017 due to the content of his tweets, the service wouldn't exist as it does today.
What you're actually saying is that you think they should have enforced their rules against him, but not necessarily against everyone who's said anything at the same level as him.
All you have to do is look at the replies to any of Trump's tweets. 90% of those from his detractors would be cause for suspensions or bans, if they applied the rules the same across the board.
You understand that they "fact checked" an opinion, right? Trump made a prediction. That can't be fact checked. The "fact checking" they did supply was contrasting opinions from two known Trump-hating outlets. They crossed a line, IMO, and they clearly exercised editorial control over the tweet, which strongly supports the "publisher" argument.
It's frankly bizarre for anyone in this country to believe the president should be banned expressing his political beliefs, just like everyone else.
We're supposed to value free speech by all... the powerful, and the powerless. Whether we like the speech, or not.
I realize Twitter is privately owned and understand what that means, but I also believe we may have reached a point in time where companies like Twitter and facebook are so big, they are more like utilities or platforms than forums, literally controlling the worldwide flow of information, and a different legal model needs to be worked out.
I am no advocate for social media by any means and in fact I am partially in agreement with you in that I also believe some social media companies have become to big and powerful and actually have some detrimental aspects to society. However, there is protected speech and then there is speech that falls outside of that status. Even worse is speech that falls outside that status and is actually detrimental to either a person, group or society as a whole. Think falsely yelling fire in a crowded theater to ensure a panic.
The 1st amendment is not all encompassing to all forms of speech, nor should it be. It has its limitations.
Some of those limitations are:
Libel, slander, obscenity, pornography, sedition, incitement, fighting words, classified information, copyright violation, trade secrets, food labeling, non-disclosure agreements, the right to privacy, dignity, the right to be forgotten, public security, and perjury
Is President Trump guilty of engaging in any of those things via a social media platform (in this case Twitter)?
If so, yes he should be banned from it. So should anyone and everyone else who engages in such practices, regardless of their position or which side of the aisle they reside on.
Trump, conservatives, liberals, purple people can spin banning and/or removing people or content from ANYONE who engages in such practices anyway they want but it is simply enforcing a set of rules and etiquite that is put in place to reasonably protect against such practices from occurring on a widespread scale and from the damages that occur when a person engages in such unprotected and detrimental speech / practices (written or verbal).
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If they banned Trump, they would be out of business in about 3 months.
Nah. Twitter would take a nose-dive for a while, but it was a popular website long before Trump. Folks still like the format, so it will survive. There's always enough non-political stuff on it to keep their members going and the interest strong.
Personally, I think Twitter would do well to ban any policy offender after a warning and/or a time out.
his policy hasn't hurt C-D any, and it's kept the politics sub-forum from burning the website down. Other forum websites that are similar have suffered that fate because they failed to enforce their rules.
Trump complains and makes threats, but he won't ever quit Tweeting. He loves to Tweet.
Regardless of what he says, POTUS should NEVER be banned from any form of mass communication. Imagine a worst case mind-bending situation where POTUS announces all [fill in race, gender, religion, or whatever] will be rounded up and executed at noon on a specific date. You don't want a little heads up on that? You don't have to agree with what POTUS says, but we are all better off having his thought process and intended actions being public, especially in the case where POTUS is a bit off his rocker.
They have no right or reason to. He's their President too and what kind of nitwit would ban their own President?
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