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Yes. I hope they conduct dui checkpoints in those areas too and start searching cars for drugs.
We all know drug use is high in those areas.
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I personally don't drink and our community has a very low incidence of drug abuse.
We have very little crime as well, as we are not very "diverse".
The cops can have all the "check points" they want around here, as the only drunks and drug smugglers would be people from out of town or out of state.
Backpedaling because they know that de-funding the police will go over like a fart in church.
But please, do tell us how giving the police less money will result in higher quality policing.
How about we use that same logic for teachers and other public sector jobs?
The reason municipalities want to de-fund or disband their police departments is to spread the cost over the counties and states they're in because the slack will have to be taken up by the county sheriff's department and the state police.
That and when something goes bad, the local Mayors and legislators don't have to take the heat for it.
We get enough left wing propaganda from the MSM and liberal C-D posters.
I can get behind defunding the police if we also defund the school system. The public schools have done more violence to minority children than the police could ever dream of doing.
Backpedaling because they know that de-funding the police will go over like a fart in church.
But please, do tell us how giving the police less money will result in higher quality policing.
How about we use that same logic for teachers and other public sector jobs?
The reason municipalities want to de-fund or disband their police departments is to spread the cost over the counties and states they're in because the slack will have to be taken up by the county sheriff's department and the state police.
That and when something goes bad, the local Mayors and legislators don't have to take the heat for it.
That's part of it. Another element of the "defund the police" movement is pure rank politics. The Democrats want to take resources away from demographic groups that don't support them (police, law enforcement, ICE, the military, small business owners) and funnel it into activist groups that will increase voter turnout for Democrats. In other words, it's just another way Democrats want to pay off their special interest groups but this time with the added benefit of sticking it to groups that are less likely to support their nonsense.
Well, that's rich of you to say. Post an individual story and extrapolate it as a national trend....it doesn't work? Really? It "doesn't work"?\
Correct. Google "logic fallacies" to find out why.
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Many leftist cities will likely follow this wave of foolishness and abolish police.
No one is abolishing police. Try to keep up.
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I'm beginning to think those calling for the defunding are just too stupid to understand the consequences they're asking for.
I'm beginning to think those who don't understand the concept of "defunding" police (which is a misnomer anyway) are just too stupid to understand the nuances of public administration and management.
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We don’t know what would have happened if someone else would have been in Klobucher’s position. We do know that she and Democrat voters are responsible for Floyd’s death along with Chauvin.
How do you figure that? Untwist your pretzel logic and get a grip on reality.
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Perhaps the police should exclude those communities and let the residents there deal with the children they raise and the cultures which seem to fester in that environment.
Criminals are mobile; and do the law-abiding people in "those communities" not deserve to be protected?
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Are schools in Democratic run Minnesota teaching children that police are someone you can trust and are there to help you? I know for a fact that they are not. Democrats have been undermining the police and any authority for decades.
Ooooh, this ought to be good. Please provide proof.
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Could you explain to us the logic behind wanting to disband the police while simultaneously denying that Americans have a Second Amendment right to own and carry a gun for self-defense purposes?
Your assertion in itself is illogical, based on two faulty premises: no one wants to "disband the police" ,and no one is denying Second Amendment rights.
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Defund does = disband
Incorrect. Do some research.
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"Doctors kill 250,000 people a year. They call them “medical mistakes” because society understands that they do a very difficult job under high stress and they must make the best possible decision in the moment.
Non sequitur. George Floyd's death was not a mistake committed with the best of intentions.
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I can get behind defunding the police if we also defund the school system. The public schools have done more violence to minority children than the police could ever dream of doing.
I dont think any rational person is talking about eliminating police. They are talking about defunding current entrenched police that simply resist all change. The police unions even force municipalities to rehire cops fired for misconduct. In other words its their own private club. Fine, dismantle it, rebuild with one that is responsive to change.
This is what Camden did apparently quite successfully. They rehired cops at reduced salary but were able to pick and choose who to rehire. The reduced salaries freed up more money to hire more cops. Without the union it's much easier to fire a cop but that force quickly reuniuonized so I donlt know if that is the case today.
What they did may only be one shot deal though. They disbanded the city police force and moved it to the county. I would presume one reason they did this is because they were no longer the employer potentially nullifying any lawsuits over the contract with Camden.
Hopefully the majority of the ones walking away are the racists and the ones that abuse power and kill black folks..
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