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Let's be clear. There are conservatives who like Trump. But no true conservative can support Trump because Trump is not conservative. Having rhetoric about immigration isn't enough to be a conservative. He's literally a 1 issue conservative and that's it.
Trumpism
- authoritarianism. Rule by executive order
- unabashed support for big government
- bloated infrastructure plans and projects
- unchecked public spending on said infrastructure
- strong populism
- economic protectionism. Anti free market and anti free trade
- economic centralization. Stimulus packages. Inefficient keynesian economics.
- heralding over leveraged economy as "successful".
- refusal to criticize the FED.
- Marxism for white people
Conservative or Libertarian
- free market and free trade
- consistently critical of big government
- against populism. Guided by principal
- pro individualism and anti communist or marxists
- against any sort of public funding
- infstrucgure should be based on demand from private enterprise.
- understand that government create perverse incentives economically. And current economic growth is a bubble and a farce.
- no more economic centralization. Market economy or bust.
- constantly asking for the abolishment of FED
- understands quantitative easing doesnt work, and is the gateway to socialism.
Let's be clear. There are conservatives who like Trump. But no true conservative can support Trump because Trump is not conservative. Having rhetoric about immigration isn't enough to be a conservative. He's literally a 1 issue conservative and that's it.
Trumpism
- authoritarianism. Rule by executive order
- unabashed support for big government
- bloated infrastructure plans and projects
- unchecked public spending on said infrastructure
- strong populism
- economic protectionism. Anti free market and anti free trade
- economic centralization. Stimulus packages. Inefficient keynesian economics.
- heralding over leveraged economy as "successful".
- refusal to criticize the FED.
- Marxism for white people
Conservative or Libertarian
- free market and free trade
- consistently critical of big government
- against populism. Guided by principal
- pro individualism and anti communist or marxists
- against any sort of public funding
- infstrucgure should be based on demand from private enterprise.
- understand that government create perverse incentives economically. And current economic growth is a bubble and a farce.
- no more economic centralization. Market economy or bust.
- constantly asking for the abolishment of FED
- understands quantitative easing doesnt work, and is the gateway to socialism.
See the difference?
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The Reagans agree with this.....
The Bushes agree with this.....
The McCains agree with this.....
The Romneys agree with this.....
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Who cares. A conservative wouldn't resort to them in the first place. Executive Orders are bad, and have nothing to do with liberty or freedom.
So IF conservatives are as you say "consistently critical of big government", WHY are they consistently in favor of increasing an already bloated military budget? Is not the military they seek to expand part of that government?
Who cares. A conservative wouldn't resort to them in the first place. Executive Orders are bad, and have nothing to do with liberty or freedom.
Ahhh do you know why Trump has had to resort to EO's ? It is because the Democrats refuse to work with him even when the idea is a win for America.
I agree with "listener2307" Trump 2020 because he is not a Democrat. Love, Loathe or Lump him Trump is still the only real option for our future. Biden? Please...
What is funny is that Trump could be described as a Democrat except for the parties extreme swing to far out Left field.
Things that Trump is for such as securing the border the Dems were all for during Obamas first term. What changed? I suspect if Trump wanted to open the borders to everyone the Dems would shut it down so fast and throw money to build a wall.
Let's be clear. There are conservatives who like Trump. But no true conservative can support Trump because Trump is not conservative. Having rhetoric about immigration isn't enough to be a conservative. He's literally a 1 issue conservative and that's it.
Trumpism
- authoritarianism. Rule by executive order
- unabashed support for big government
- bloated infrastructure plans and projects
- unchecked public spending on said infrastructure
- strong populism
- economic protectionism. Anti free market and anti free trade
- economic centralization. Stimulus packages. Inefficient keynesian economics.
- heralding over leveraged economy as "successful".
- refusal to criticize the FED.
- Marxism for white people
Conservative or Libertarian
- free market and free trade
- consistently critical of big government
- against populism. Guided by principal
- pro individualism and anti communist or marxists
- against any sort of public funding
- infstrucgure should be based on demand from private enterprise.
- understand that government create perverse incentives economically. And current economic growth is a bubble and a farce.
- no more economic centralization. Market economy or bust.
- constantly asking for the abolishment of FED
- understands quantitative easing doesnt work, and is the gateway to socialism.
See the difference?
Your assessment of the Trump administration was done with a blind eye, apparently.
For instance, you utterly ignored his mandate to repeal three regulations each time a new one is enacted. The actual number being repealed is somewhere in the 20s, for each new one, iirc. Totally absent from your "unabashed support for big government" charge.
"Anti free market and anti free trade" ignores that he's explicitly stated several times that the tariffs are a strategy, not an outcome. Free trade only works when both sides are playing by the same rules. I can see where he's going and each move makes sense.
Just a couple of examples, but you see where it's going. I'm not saying Trump is a conservative generally, because he isn't in a lot of ways, but your points are way off.
Also missing from your and everyone else's assessment is the fact that the executive branch is just one coequal branch of government. Your complaint about his asserting executive authority exists largely because democrats in congress aren't willing to work with him on anything, lest they be shunned as pariahs of the New Religion.
There are 537 people making up the elected body of the federal government, if my count is correct, and 535 of them escape virtually all blame, for some reason, despite being the ones who make careers of their "public service" and are the ones actually drafting the bad laws and passing them through two houses before a president gets blamed for the damage they do.
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