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Old 06-11-2020, 07:29 AM
 
Location: Out West in Utah
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I'm a moderate politically, and I should be against Trump, BUT...BUT...But... The democrat party really has gone off the deep end. All of the moderate democrats are cowards who refuse to keep the far-left in check. Trump should not be a difficult candidate to beat, but the democrats put forth the worst political lineup ever to seek office, with Joe Biden ending up as the candidate. Joe Biden has no chance of beating Trump unless Trump makes some big mistakes between now and November. Democrats can complain all they want about how bad Trump is, but you also need to point the mirror at your own political party that is driving moderate voters away toward the conservatives.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:30 AM
 
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I don't buy it, any candidate can just as easily use social media to unite or to divide. Like any other tool, social media can be used for good or bad.
I am not talking about candidates using social media. I’m talking about just having these platforms has made division and partisanship even more pronounced. I think the divide between the parties is simply too great for us to be united anymore.

I will never agree that gender is a construct and that kids as young as three or four can decide which gender they are and doctors should prescribe hormone blockers.

I will never agree that enforcing immigration laws is racist.

I will never agree that all white people are inherently racist and uphold a racist system.

I will never agree that we should transform the police into a force full of social workers. They will surely come to you for bad social media postings, but you will be on your own if you’re being abused by a spouse or you are being robbed.

I will never agree that we should institute more gun laws.

I will never vote for another Democrat. Period.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:31 AM
 
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The days of presidents uniting the country ended with the advent of social media. Possibly even earlier with the World Wide Web. I’ll take Trump over the Democrats any day. The only way to save the Democratic Party is for them to lose, and lose badly.
The only way to save the traditional, center-right Republican Party is for Trump and his apologists to be crushed and for the old party values to rise like Phoenix from the ashes.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:37 AM
 
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The only way to save the traditional, center-right Republican Party is for Trump and his apologists to be crushed and for the old party values to rise like Phoenix from the ashes.
BS! You people hated the old party, but you loved that they surrendered all the time. I didn’t like the old party either, because I’m not a Chamber of Commerce type who thinks cheap labor is great and outsourcing jobs so corporations and shareholders can make more money is good. Trump is like the old style democrats that I liked, with a few sprinkles of good Republican stuff like judicial appointments of constitutionalists. He says some crazy stuff, but he does some pretty good things.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:40 AM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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Pretty good statement.
Most of the, "do you support Trump?" types of posts ignore the fact that the choice is between Trump and Biden, and pretend that it is a Trump or not-Trump choice.
Biden is a simple tool used by the DNC. Horrifyingly enough, they think Biden is their best choice.
There are almost no Republicans who are "on the fence" with Trump. The Democrat choice of Biden assures that.

And the GOP is being used by a simple narcissistic tool.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:43 AM
 
Location: OH->FL->NJ
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Ive seen more, "I hate Trump but the loonies in Seattle (or looters or rioters) terrify me" type posts than anything.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:44 AM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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How are you going to "unite" a country in which thousands upon thousands of Americans have been taught by their party that they are victims, that they are missing out on opportunity, that they are paid less for their work, and that police are evil and must be resisted at every opportunity?


You can't unite with those people. Let Democrats in power and we will see the meaning of dictatorship. Obama said right from the beginning that Republicans should sit in the back and be grateful that they were allowed to ride along at all.

The man is a fool. This speech was one of the things that cause his "Great Shellacking" in 2010.
https://www.c-span.org/video/?c47483...otta-back-seat
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:45 AM
 
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lets see my choice as a republican is trump or biden - this is real hard - i like paying alot more taxes, i like the fact that i cant buy gums or asmmo without background checks, i like the fact that there is alot of regulations so i cant stat a company or have to go through hell to open one, i like the all the free social programs crap - whoops i cant get any i make to much even retired-. i like the idea of globalization and put america 2nd - - yep the choice is real clear now that i thought about it

TRUMP - no more BS
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:47 AM
 
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we need a viable centrist third party. only way out of this.
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Old 06-11-2020, 07:50 AM
 
Location: Sector 001
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All that really matters is that fed taking control of the bond market and becoming the buyer of first resort is going to collapse the economy. Checkmate for our banking system is much closer than before.

I'll vote Trump because why not.... Its a choice between socialism or more socialism. The elites within the empire knows it's going to fall but is not capable of doing anything about it without significant pain of course from kicking the can down the road for so long. They'll just extract what they can and move their base of operations.
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